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A gay in the hand ...
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:41:14 AM »
I had heard that there was a strong correlation of homosexual orientation with successive sons born to the same mother (each successive son born has a 33% greater chance of being gay), but I hadn't heard that this correlation only applies to right-handed sons. There is no correlation to homosexuality and birth order for left-handed sons.

Also interesting, homosexuality among females has no correlation to birth order or handedness.

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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 09:37:10 PM »
No, but this topic is.

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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 06:50:11 AM »
15% (according to Wikipedia) is a small percentage, IMO. For example:
I'm the second-born son and am bisexual. I have a friend who's firstborn and is homosexual. My ex-boyfriend is firstborn and also homosexual. We are all right-handed. Where does that leave us? Outliers? EDIT: I recall yet another friend who's also homosexual. He is right-handed as well and an only son, as far as I know.
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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 09:00:29 AM »
That's why it's known as a correlation.

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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 09:07:27 AM »
That's why it's known as a correlation.

Even dismissing these cases (four or five or even one hundred is not proof of anything when it comes to millions of non-heterosexuals), this is what you said you had heard: "(...) strong correlation (...)". Bold for emphasis. However, 15% (Wikipedia's number) is hardly "strong". Unless we've defined the term differently.
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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 06:49:19 PM »
A correlation of 15% is significant in any statistical population (of sufficient size which the studies had). When there is zero (or nearly zero) correlation for left-handed homosexual men with older brothers and zero (or nearly zero) correlation for handedness for homosexual women regardless of age, sex or quantity of siblings, I view the right-handed-homosexual-men-with-older-brothers rate of 15% to be a strong correlation. Far lesser correlations are justified by state insurance departments for setting differential rates for insurance premiums,  or even among meteorologists for predicting the amount of snow that will fall in a winter storm, for example.

It means there's something worth investigating, but we don't know enough to know where to start.

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Re: A gay in the hand ...
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 05:13:39 PM »

It means there's something worth investigating, but we don't know enough to know where to start.

I look forward to when they do get an inkling of where to go from. I love odd scientific things like this.
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