I'd be interested if you could name a source of happiness that could NOT be lost, for starters.
Perhaps more to the point, can you see how your desire to tell people what is, and is not, a "legitimate" source of happiness could well make people unhappy?
When have I ever said what is and is not a source of happiness? Please share.
My apologies for jumping in here, but maybe I can help.
Junebug, I think when you said the following:
I think the first step is to understand happiness does not come from money. Money can come and go true happiness does not. If money is the only way to be happy and Heaven and earth forbid you loose that mullah. Then your happiness is lost. So we must prove with our own actions that happiness an money are not synonymous.
The first thing you said was that you think “the first step is to understand happiness does not come from money”, that was interpreted as you saying what is not a source of happiness.
I guess it really comes down to if there is such a thing as objective happiness or is happiness just subjective. I personally don’t think there is such a thing as objective happiness. As soon as we say that one thing makes people happy no matter what, we will probably find out that it doesn’t actually make everyone happy.
I think happiness is subjective, different things make different people happy. We can’t say, “well everyone do what makes you happy”, because what makes one person happy may make another person unhappy.
Now to the second part, I think Anfauglir was curious about if any type of happiness exists that is never lost. In your example Junebug relating to money, you seem to imply that money comes and goes, and if someone is happy because of money but lose that money which would mean they are no longer happy.
It is true that we can lose the things that make us happy. Does that mean we should distance ourselves from what we might lose even if it makes us happy? I would answer no. I think we just need to be aware that nothing lasts forever, including happiness and it helps to be prepared for that, but until the happiness is lost, enjoy it thoroughly.
What has any god got to do with sports? I thought you were saying that happy thoughts were good? Did you actually mean to say "only happy thoughts that relate to a god are good"?
You're the one with that idea not me. No I did not mean to say that. I did not say that. IDK, maybe read it again.
I’m not sure where the disconnect was here.
I think Anfauglir was talking about people who are happy when their home team wins. For instance, I am a Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team fan, and when they win I am happy, when they lose I am unhappy. Note this is just an example, I’m not actually unhappy when they lose, but I’m not exactly happy either, not when compared to when they do good. It is exciting when your favorite team wins, you get to jump up and down and cheer. When they lose, there is no jumping up and down and cheering. Some people get very unhappy and actually angry when their favorite team loses.
So if my team wins, I’m happy but on the flip side the other team lost which means that someone else might be unhappy.
This is what Anfauglir means by zero-sum game. My happiness is someone else’s unhappiness.
So for the happy days, enjoy every moment of them, and for the unhappy days, maybe positive thinking is the fast track to returning to happy days.