First, the convention is not to try and debate a Mod. This is because Mods are neutral and cannot debate: the convention is to comply with a Mod's request.
Second, Please comply with the Mod's request: "Please can you clearly summarise your beliefs - or lack thereof - and explain the apparent dichotomy between the two posts of yours I have quoted?"
Sure I am an atheist. This is a intellectual quest for truth based on readings. There is no dichotomy in the quest of truth. Belief is a stagnated state of mind. I don't see me having to side with someone because I do not see their logic. I can easily trash the individuals in any religion but that does not make me a better human being. I can easily trash some of these so called atheist because they dont even have a clue on what atheism is. IMO I think there is some misconceptions of what an atheist is. Therefore I suggest a way forward. My thread Theists know God Atheists don't.
Finally, your statement: If you read the various religious books there is no evidence that the theists make out that they do not know God and that they only believe in God. is filled with negatives and thus is ambiguous to say the least: do you mean
If you read the various religious books there is no evidence that the theists make out that they do not know God but, instead, they make out that they only believe in God.
If you read the various religious books there is no evidence that the theists make out that they do not know God nor do they only believe in God.
Do you have a reference to these, "the various religious books"?
This is what I am saying - If you read the various religious books the theists say they know God.
Yes for "Present day Theists" that can be verified and authenticated. I can present books about what they are saying.
Older books is much harder to authenticate because over time things are manipulated. A lot of the ones in the present day are already being tampered with to make the theists look like fakes. Not that I am a Theist but I have a brain that thinks some on here have a wrong agenda in inhumanity. As an Atheist I do not have that agenda.
Paul Twitchel - Tigers Fang and
Path of the Masters by Julian Johnson.