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Tales of Round Ark found
« on: February 01, 2014, 08:03:04 AM »
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A recently deciphered 4,000-year-old clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia is putting a new spin on the biblical tale of the flood and Noah's Ark — and that's causing consternation among some Christian fundamentalists.

The Book of Genesis includes detailed specifications for the giant boat on which all kinds of animals were placed, two by two, to shelter from 40 days and 40 nights of rain. The wooden ark was to measure about 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 30 feet high (300 by 50 by 30 cubits, or 137 by 23 by 13 meters).

All well and good: But the specifications listed on the Babylonian "Ark Tablet," which is now on display at the British Museum, are totally different. The Babylonian boat was supposed to be made of braided rope, stiffened by wooden spars and sealed with bitumen. And it was supposed to have a round base, measuring 230 feet wide (70 meters wide).
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Finkel said the account of the flood and the ark was probably passed along to the Jews during their Babylonian exile in the 6th century B.C. and served as the basis for the Genesis story. Biblical Archaeology Review's Noah Wiener said the cuneiform tablet was created "a full millennium before the Genesis narrative was written down."

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http://www.nbcnews.com/science/babylonian-tale-round-ark-draws-wrath-some-christian-circles-2D12035655

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 08:50:42 AM »
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But Ken Ham, who founded Answers in Genesis-U.S. and is trying to raise $73 million to build a full-scale replica of Noah's Ark in Kentucky, says it must have been the other way around: The true account must have come first in Genesis, and was corrupted by the time the Babylonians set down their details on the Ark Tablet.


"Because the Bible is God’s inspired Word, it gives us the true account," Ham wrote. "The other flood legends are man’s changed versions of the event called Noah’s Flood, which occurred close to 4,400 years ago!"

Good thing men like Ken Ham are in this world to set us straight with facts as hard and cold as steel.

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 09:06:17 AM »
Yep, that was interesting to read about. The BBC news site carried it a few days ago. It seems as though the Babylonians were designing a huge coracle so one might imagine, since this is quite possibly the basis for the Genesis story, that the Hebrews replaced the coracle with their own sort of boat - and made it stupidly oversize to the extent that there is n o known way, even now, to make a wooden boat that big.

personally, I reckon Ken Ham should make a boat to the Genesis specifications and sail it. Then we would see if it is even feasible now! If it isn't, well, that's one idiot less in the world!
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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 01:23:49 PM »
Yep, that was interesting to read about. The BBC news site carried it a few days ago. It seems as though the Babylonians were designing a huge coracle so one might imagine, since this is quite possibly the basis for the Genesis story, that the Hebrews replaced the coracle with their own sort of boat - and made it stupidly oversize to the extent that there is n o known way, even now, to make a wooden boat that big.

personally, I reckon Ken Ham should make a boat to the Genesis specifications and sail it. Then we would see if it is even feasible now! If it isn't, well, that's one idiot less in the world!

Plus the idiots who go with him but the poor animals he takes with them.

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 12:00:39 AM »
Maybe instead of animals, he could take people dressed as animals...?
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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 12:41:34 AM »
Maybe instead of animals, he could take people dressed as animals...?


And he can tend to his flock when he gets hor...I mean...lonely.

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 05:35:56 PM »
personally, I reckon Ken Ham should make a boat to the Genesis specifications and sail it. Then we would see if it is even feasible now! If it isn't, well, that's one idiot less in the world!

Ken Ham can't even get his Ark to sit on dry land - his planned Ark theme park in Kentucky is out of funds and going nowhere fast.
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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 09:58:06 PM »
^ until Bill Nye graciously agreed to a fund raiser for him in the form of a "debate".   
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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2014, 11:15:30 AM »
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"Because the Bible is God’s inspired Word, it gives us the true account," Ham wrote.

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2014, 01:57:40 PM »
This is all so confusing.

Do you think that it is possible, that throughout the course of human history, there have been, perhaps, multiple major floods?    And perhaps even multiple boats, built in the ancient world, that were noteworthy in that their passengers survived really bad floods? 

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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2014, 11:05:20 AM »
Maybe instead of animals, he could take people dressed as animals...?


And he can tend to his flock when he gets hor...I mean...lonely.
Oh goody - biblical fundamentalist furries.

I'll let someone else google that one.
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Re: Tales of Round Ark found
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 06:34:51 PM »
This is all so confusing.

Do you think that it is possible, that throughout the course of human history, there have been, perhaps, multiple major floods?    And perhaps even multiple boats, built in the ancient world, that were noteworthy in that their passengers survived really bad floods?

Stop getting all logical on us!
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