as are most of your posts are just your opinion. But my opinion is based on me actually READING the Bible multiple times and reading what many others have to say about the Bible, and I've been at this for many years now.If I am pointing out a clear contradiction of something stated in the bible or something stated by a believer, it is not an opinion. It is an unresolved contradiction. Saying that such is just my opinion does not automatically resolve the contradiction. In the case of the above, I indicated that you were mistaken that...
The Bible is clear that Yahweh is the only supernatural being.If it was clear, we would not be discussing it. If it was clear, Christians would not disagree on the trinity or the nature of the trinity. There would not be countless books laying out different theories on the the nature of the trinity.
With regards to the Trinity, there is no contradiction unless you put God on the level of a human. There is nothing contradictory about a being that is more "advanced" than we are existing as one being in multiple persons.
It may not be understood, but because one cannot understand it doesn't mean that it is impossible.
No backpedaling necessary. One, it is only your opinion that Yahweh is evil. Two, we are not perfect image reflectors. Ever been to a "Hall of Crazy Mirrors" at a fair or circus? There are mirrors that make tall, skinny people look short and fat, or distorted in other ways. Even though we can recognize some familiar features of ourselves in these mirrors (i.e. the color of our skin and hair), we know that those images are not a complete and accurate reflection of us.Handwaving. Everything that you are saying is contradictory. We are not perfect image reflectors - except for the goodness in us but any evil or badness in us is NOT a reflection of God. But even the goodness in us is not a reflection of God because any goodness that we have is as filthy menstrual rags to God. This is horribly dishonest. I believe that this is referred to as 'pretzel logic'.
It is only pretzel logic because you are trying to twist it. I've explained how an image reflector can reflect some of an image but not all of it, or some of the reflection but not all of it perfectly. Really s-i-m-p-l-e.
God created man, and "it was good." Man was originally created good, then he chose not to be.[/quote]
Man did not 'choose' to be bad. Man did not have knowledge of good or bad. [/quote]
Actually, man had the knowledge of "obey" or "disobey." That should have been enough.
God placed a temptation directly within their reach, deliberately. Then placed, or at the very least allowed, a magic talking serpent into the garden and allowed the serpent to talk to man. He did nothing to stop any of this.
Yes. Yes except not magic unless you mean supernatural. Yes.
Then God punishes THEM for HIS incompetence and lack of foresight. If anyone chose to be bad, it was Yahweh.
No, God punishes man for man's disobedience - "Do not eat" means "Do not eat." What part of disobedience do you not understand?
Why is it evil for God to set rules in His creation?
Why is it evil for God to place what is off limits within reach and say "Leave it alone or else."?
Why is it evil for God to allow man the freedom to choose obedience or disobedience?
If man was created a robot, then you would still find fault with Him because He did not give man free will.
So it was Adam and Eve's fault.Then why doesn't Yahweh punish them and only them for their 'transgression'? Why, according to the bible does he bring the hammer down on all the rest of humanity for something that they had no part in?
The Christian worldview explains this as the doctrine of Federal Headship. Adam was placed in the garden as the representative of all mankind. Had Adam chose to obey, then his obedience would have been passed on to the human race rather than his guilt.
That's why Jesus is referred to as the "Last Adam." He came to be the new representative for the human race, but there is a difference. We didn't get to opt in with the "first Adam" and some will cry "Foul!" God's creation, so He gets to make the rules. But God was not obligated to send the "Last Adam," yet He did anyway, yet who is crying "Hallelujah!"? Only those who opt in apparently.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and think "good" of you, that you are not trolling.Think what you will of me. It doesn't change the fact that previously you stated that the goodness in us reflects the goodness in God but then you engage in special pleading trying to say that the evil in us does NOT reflect evil in God. You can't have it both ways. Either our good/evil/FMR(Filthy Menstrual Rags) all reflect those same qualities in God or none of them do.
I think that you're the one doing the special pleading. I've given you a very clear, simple explanation of how this works. Besides, there is no evil within God to reflect, so even if we reflected Him perfectly, then we would be only good.
Are you even familiar with the type of mirrors that I'm talking about? I'm just asking.
The good things that God does are pure, holy, and righteous. Man has no innate goodness, none of his own. Any goodness that man has is man attempting to imitate God. But in comparison to the good that God does, man's "righteous works" are actually filthy.You have rendered these words useless when stating that if God does them they are holy and righteous but when man does them they are filthy. Why would I want to associate with a being that looks down upon me with such loathing (for simply being human, no less). You have basically shut down the discussion right here - if man's 'righteous works' are filthy, then why bother? If me living a life of debauchery would be the same in God's eyes as me opening a soup kitchen for the homeless, helping others, etc. then WHY BOTHER?
Better questions are "Why would God want to associate with a being who loathes Him?"
"Why would God want to associate with a human who is filthy compared to His righteousness?"
"If pain, loss, and suffering serve no purpose or have no meaning and if we are just a product of TIME + CHANCE + NOTHING and there is no purpose or meaning for mankind other than we just "happened,", then why bother feeding the homeless, helping others, etc. then WHY BOTHER?"
Man was originally created good
Man has no innate goodnessDoes not compute...
When God created man, man's goodness was derived from God making him good. It was not innate (self-attained). Man has no self-attained goodness.
The biblical Christian explanation: Holy means that God is unlike us. His essense is purely good. When He does anything, it is within His character of being holy, so that whatever He does is "right," or righteous.This still tells me nothing useful about God other than he loathes me no matter what I do. It also renders the words meaningless when everything that God does is good or righteous even if it is something evil & vile.
God is holy, He hates what is not holy. God is just, He will punish the evildoer. God is love, He extends mercy, grace, and the offer of forgiveness to you.