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$%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« on: December 04, 2013, 06:25:49 PM »
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/04/alec-freerider-homeowners-assault-clean-energy

I ran out of swear words long before I finished reading this.

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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 06:53:12 PM »
Conservatives interfering in markets? Conservatives opposing competition? Conservatives opposing businesses? Do you suspect they are self-centred hypocrites who have no real values except their own bank-account?
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 06:58:39 PM »
Conservatives interfering in markets? Conservatives opposing competition? Conservatives opposing businesses? Do you suspect they are self-centred hypocrites who have no real values except their own bank-account?
I more than suspect it.

I had to rewrite the OP several times as I kept having to erase a string of f-bombs, with a liberal sprinkling of evil b-words as well. I'm actually pretty proud of my restraint.
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 08:55:51 PM »
Where is ELF when you need them?
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 02:57:20 AM »
Where is ELF when you need them?

Or just Will Ferrell in general?

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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 10:04:31 AM »
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"As it stands now, those direct generation customers are essentially freeriders on the system. They are not paying for the infrastructure they are using. In effect, all the other non direct generation customers are being penalised," he said.
Not paying for infrastructure?  How about starting with everyone's favorite Sunday gossip center?  I'm sure they don't freeload that much....oh only around $71,000,000,000
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-06-15/religious-tax-exemption-challenged/55629908/1
But I'm sure all their charitable acts more than make that up.
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 01:49:26 PM »
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"As it stands now, those direct generation customers are essentially freeriders on the system. They are not paying for the infrastructure they are using. In effect, all the other non direct generation customers are being penalised," he said.
Not paying for infrastructure?  How about starting with everyone's favorite Sunday gossip center?  I'm sure they don't freeload that much....oh only around $71,000,000,000
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-06-15/religious-tax-exemption-challenged/55629908/1
But I'm sure all their charitable acts more than make that up.

If it doesn't go into their pockets then they are freeloaders.

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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 02:07:15 PM »
How exactly are those customers who are feeding power back into the grid "free-riding?" They are being paid by the company that owns/maintains the infrastructure they are being accused of taking advantage of.

It's like if I charged a gas station for the use of my car in providing the "infrastructure" (engine, clutch, ect) for the gasoline's consumption. That gas station didn't pay for that car! Why should they profit from it's use?

 The only way this argument would have weight would be if the folks generating power were being paid directly by the neighbors who were using said power. Not that we could trace the usage of those particular electrons (or whatever you call a particular instance of current in a circuit) anyhow.
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 10:12:27 PM »
They are freeloaders because of they suck the power back, during the night. In Australia, they started giving 7x the electricity price to installed solar, so they sprung up everywhere. Now, all those contracts have run out, and when they expire they will get nothing.
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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 10:16:15 PM »
I just read they're going after solar-powered dildoes! Wait, I might have read that at a satirical website...or worse, made it up.

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Re: $%&#@*(&%^#% ALEC strikes again
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 10:49:05 PM »
They are freeloaders because of they suck the power back, during the night.
I don't see how this is freeloading.  Are they not charged for the electricity they pull off of the grid during times when solar power isn't available?