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Offline rev45

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Black Friday/Christmas season
« on: November 29, 2013, 09:18:12 PM »
The Black Friday compilations are starting to pop up on youtube.  I worked several years at a farm retail store and while we had some people waiting early at the front doors, it was nothing like in these videos.  Anyone here take part in Black Friday shopping or have you ever had to put with the crazy crowds at your job?




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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 09:35:43 PM »
I hate present giving at Christmas generally - not because I'm a scrooge, and I love to make people happy in other ways. But I hate feeling like a tool of the retailers and advertisers.

Not sure which video you just posted as it is blocked on my work PC, but I just saw one with people fighting over a TV in wall-mart. It just made me want to give up on humanity. I need to go and watch a video of somebody rescuing a kitten to bring myself back from the edge.
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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 09:42:22 PM »
I had shopping to do today but I chose to stay home. I live in a town of à little over 6,000 it does have a lot of stores, and it's the county seat; the rest of the county is mainly farm land but with about 25,000 people, much of whom would most likely come hete--yeah, I stayed home.

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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »
I hate present giving at Christmas generally - not because I'm a scrooge, and I love to make people happy in other ways. But I hate feeling like a tool of the retailers and advertisers.
I hear you.  If I'm giving something that the person really wants or needs I'm okay it.  But when I have to get something for a relative that I really don't like or know what they could use, then it feels like an obligation rather than because I want to. 

Most of the time anymore I'll bake something and give it as a present.  I'll do cookies or brownies and I'll suggest to my dirt poor grandmother to makes some pies and breads.  Its our little way of sticking it to the advertisers and our treats always go over well.  And its usually cheap.  ;D
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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 10:10:03 PM »
Myself, I just hole myself up at home.  Everything I hear about Black Friday makes me think its not worth the effort.
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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 10:17:27 PM »
The crowds for Black Friday shopping are enough to discourage me in any case, but mostly my problem is that if I manage to find a really good, really fitting present for someone more than a week or so before Christmas, I'm going to break down and give it to them early anyway. I have no will power when it comes to holding back a good gift. And if it's any closer than that, I'm going to be so stressed trying to find the right thing for the right person in time that it's just going to become a chore, and in all likelihood will end up falling a bit flat anyway.

I have absolutely no excitement for any event which forces me to pick out presents for a specific date ahead of time.

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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 10:28:18 PM »
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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 10:42:08 PM »
Any other Grinchs here?

I've said it before and I'll say it again,Fuck every holiday that causes my kids to expect me to spend money on a bunch of bullshit.

Christmas, Halloween, Valentines day, Easter

And again and again and again.
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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 10:53:37 PM »
I recalled this from one of my embarrasingly arrogant initial threads:

>snip<
Which led me to thinking, where do I go to find the web-sites dedictaed to refuting the existence of Santa?
>snip<
I guess what I am really asking is: what compells atheists to the sort of research and effort I see on this site?

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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 09:33:37 AM »
We are a fucking strange people.
Yo, put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Quit ragging on my Lord.

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Re: Black Friday/Christmas season
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 10:22:24 AM »


Hey, I would buy some Grinch genes jeans!
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