This conversation with Skep has turned in to a bigger time waster than professional wrestling. It is simply not worth the effort. For either side. As it goes on and on, the world Skep is defining travels further and further from ours, as he comes up with new excuses for our every point.
We've driven him deeper into his personal fortress. That is not progress.
Advancing is impossible. There is no meeting of the minds here, only head butting. We humans haven't evolved enough to have built-in solutions for such problems, and religion isn't complete enough to do the job, so neither side has the tools to provide a solution. What we have now is a couple of twains that shall never meet.
IRL, I have many religious friends. We just don't talk about it. That way we can do things that are useful.
I suggest that we all find better things to do. Or else Skeptic will have to put a footnote on his claim about bringing people to god since 1995. He'll have to say "Except in 2013".