Underline indicates previous post comments. ".....in eighteen months from this month, in eighteen months from April 1995 your church, Westminster Chapel, will be unrecognisable, completely utterly and totally unrecognisable. .....taxi drivers would get out of their taxis because the Spirit of God is so strong in that place - you're going to see them fulfilled."
Interesting. How does that meet your definition of a prophecy that you gave here?
It meets the definition of a false prophecy. A prophecy spoken, must be tested by the Biblical standard of who is a 'prophet'. The Bible is the only 'acid test' to put it in scientific terms. "No, we know when a prophecy is a prophecy. We just dont know the full meaning of it until its fulfillment.. hence the word 'ful-fill-ment.'
As explained above, we may have an idea what it means, but we will not know exactly how untill it is fulfilled and we see the event."
Your definition of a "false prophecy" is specific and definite, and so far as I can see gives an exact and measurable prediction that can be agreed upon before the fulfilment.
I quote a false prophecy. True prophecies can also be specific and definite, however, as explained before, we know in part, not in full until the 'ful-fill-ment' when we get all the understnading. In this case, the King of babylon, knew some of the details, what to expect, but he did not know who the 3rd and 4th kinsdoms would be, he just knew they, whoever they are, would come. The king of Babylon believed his kingdom would last forever so he built the image he saw in his dream all in Gold, signifying that babylon would rule forever and not accept defeat from other invading kingdoms. As we know, Babylon was crushed to smithereens and it was indeed taken over by the Medes and the persians as God said through Daniel to the King. See the proof from the Prophet Daniel 2:31 below:"Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
36“This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.
39“After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
[/b][/i]""PERES; Thy kingdom has been broken and is given to the Medes and Persians". Daniel 5:28
Daniel is very specific in his prophecy. He says to the King of Babylon YOU ARE THE HEAD OF GOLD, i.e Babylon. Bold indicates few of the specific details of all the kingdoms that followed in that dream.
Rome was divided in two as a historical fact in 395 (see source below) Rome was depicted as the 2 legs of iron in the dream and the Roman kingdom then became subdivided into ten kingdoms signified by the feet with ten toes, partly of iron, partly of clay, showing its weakness.
First division of Rome in 395 by Theodosius 1 see source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_Empire
And then, the divided Roman empire became subdived into ten kingdoms, just as daniel said represented by the toes.
1. Alemanni - Germany.
2. Visigoths - Spain.
3. Franks - France.
4. Anglo-Saxons - England.
5. Burgundians - Switzerland.
6. Ostrogoths - Exterminated.
7. Suevi - Portugal.
8. Lombards - Italy.
9. Vandals - Exterminated.
10. Heruli - Exterminated.
Futhermore, verse 43 of daniel 2, states that there would be a diverse people who would not remain united in Europe, even though governments try to go against the Bible by uniting the nations, with a European union. It will not work, for the people will not remain united
, even though political leaders try. Napoleon tried it, Mousillini tried it, Hitler tried it and the EU have tried it. All have failed. You only have to look in the news about racism and riots to show how people are not united.
In other words, your definition of "prophecy" is self-fulfilling. Or can you give an example of a statement that was agreed before the event was a definite prophecy, but later found out not to be? If you cannot, then there surely is no such thing as an "unfulfilled prophecy"?
The above prophecy from Gerald coats failed. It was specific, agreed upon before the supposed event, but never came to pass. On the other hand, Daniel said who would rule, and he was correct. However, a prophet can only be accepted as a prophet on certain grounds, not just fulfilled prophesies alone.