Fine. I've made it clear that I understand your point that it's intentional. The drum has been beaten and I've agreed.
My bad, that was indeed redundant. Sorry for that. Moving on...
But holding up Hinduism as an alternative message really isn't valid is it? How is the message of Hinduism - you are exactly as you were born, and stuck there for this life cycle - any different? Either you are granted privileges you didn't earn, or you are subject to challenges that are only there due to the status of your parents - your destiny is out of your hands due to the circumstances of your birth. Not much practical difference than what I've been saying through this entire thread.
May be not. In Hinduism (not the caste endorsed variant promoted by the Brahmins), each person has the option of elevating his life and rejoining with god. He is not really stuck in a life cycle, he has the option to 'progress'. Salvation, Nirvana- you name it, its pretty similar to heaven in Christianity. I would say that it is an example of a positive message. This is why I stated that we have an example of what is the outcome of a positive message in this context.
I cannot talk with surety on Islam. That is why I brought the subject of inherited sin, with Islam not having that concept, it is logical to assume that they do not
have this particular negative message. I thought you would pick that up, my apologies for not being clear enough. That makes it the second example.
The "Original Sin" is mentioned only for logical purposes. That is why I used the term 'inherited'. Its the same negative message you are talking about, I don't understand why you got riled by that. For this thread, only the message and the manner in which it is delivered is relevant.
I've also indicated that I don't accept your position that changing the message would end religious participation. Given that THAT is an actual source of dispute in this chat between you and I, we could possibly have a productive discussion about that.
We still can. I understood the purpose of this thread to be an investigation on how it would turn out if Christianity turned out the message in the other sense. My reply was that its been already tried and found to be pretty much the same. The mentioning of other religions was to show you live examples of your suggested alternative.
And my belief is that in this particular context the imminent prospects of hell will negate the manner (positive/negative) the message is delivered. Positive, zero or Negative bias, in the end, comparable believers will end up similar.