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Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?

Martin Luther at least had the good sense to know that the church could not honestly believe that they could bargain away consequences imposed by God, ---- or bribe God’s justice, ---- with indulgences.

He recognized how completely immoral and flagrant such lies from the church were and chose to break from that immorality and outright theft.

Strange that the Catholics of today just keep buying the lies without a peep and secular governments, ---- that are supposed to care for their constituents, ---- all ignore this crime against the gullible.

Seems that Catholic morals are no better than Protestant Christians when it comes to bargaining in God’s name, --- and bribing his justice. Not to mention secular law that has abandoned their most vulnerable charges.

Shame on the R. C. C. and all Christians for allowing such a flim-flam man to lead the Catholic and Christian world.

Shame on governments for ignoring this flagrant crime.

 In the days of old, I could buy my way out of a crime.  Rape for instance, for a given price.

How much would I need to pay the Pope to have him bribe God’s justice today?

Now I know that the Pope would never give a price but there definitely was a price back when.

I would suggest $ 5,000.00 per rape.

Do you think that too high or too low?

Are you getting the idea I am trying to give you yet?

God’s justice for sale folks. Buy your bribes ASAP before they run out.

Send all requests and funds to the Vatican, --- in care of Satan.

Indulgences; moral or immoral?

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 11:04:57 AM »
Immoral for both those paying the indulgence and those accepting the payment.
For obvious reasons.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 03:18:54 PM »
It was just an early version of the "Get Out of Jail FREE Card".
Yo, put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Quit ragging on my Lord.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 03:53:26 PM »
It was just an early version of the "Get Out of Jail FREE Card".

I lost mine. It was a Simpsons' one too. :'(

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »
Immoral for both those paying the indulgence and those accepting the payment.
For obvious reasons.

Yes. Moral reasons that just go right over the heads of Christians and Catholics.
Our most moral citizens. So they tell me.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 04:11:57 PM »
It was just an early version of the "Get Out of Jail FREE Card".

Not free. You have to sell your morals to Satan to get one.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 04:17:17 PM »
You can't buy your way into heaven. Next.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 05:24:58 PM »
It was just an early version of the "Get Out of Jail FREE Card".

I lost mine. It was a Simpsons' one too. :'(

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Perhaps a Christian stole it. Some are sneaky bastards.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 05:27:35 PM »
You can't buy your way into heaven. Next.

But but all those gullible people who paid!!

There should be a law.
Hey, there is.
We just do not enforce laws against religions.
They are above the law.

Secular law fears the Lord.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 05:33:37 PM »
There aren't many laws against gullibility and stupidity. Unless infomercials are now banned and somebody forgot to tell me.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 05:38:41 PM »
It was just an early version of the "Get Out of Jail FREE Card".

I lost mine. It was a Simpsons' one too. :'(

-Nam

Perhaps a Christian stole it. Some are sneaky bastards.

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I think it was my brother, a fellow atheist. But he's my brother, he steals a lot of my shit.

;)

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 07:13:45 PM »
Been there. Gotta love them though. It's family.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 11:30:36 PM »
There aren't many laws against gullibility and stupidity. Unless infomercials are now banned and somebody forgot to tell me.
How come you can break the rules,like cutting your hair,shaving and getting tattoo's and such but you can't BUY your way into heaven?
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2013, 12:12:06 AM »
The rules I break are covered by Jesus. It's all about Him.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2013, 03:22:05 AM »
The rules I break are covered by Jesus. It's all about Him.

Can you see where he directly says that in his own words?
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 03:35:05 AM »
I don't think Jesus is recorded as expressing it in that fashion, no.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 04:13:20 AM »
I don't think Jesus is recorded as expressing it in that fashion, no.

Then, it's your opinion that you're covered by Jesus?

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2013, 08:51:45 AM »
There aren't many laws against gullibility and stupidity. Unless infomercials are now banned and somebody forgot to tell me.

So it is ok then for a mainstream church to outright lie to it's members and secular law should not act to protect those members from theft. Nice morals that. Not.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2013, 09:35:34 AM »
Indulgences;

1. are you sure you know what indulgences are?  I read the catholic encyclopedia website, and I can't really tell what they are from that.  But they don't sound like what you are talking about.

2. even if you are right, do they even do that anymore?  I thought that ended in the 17th century?
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2013, 11:20:09 AM »
Indulgences;

1. are you sure you know what indulgences are?  I read the catholic encyclopedia website, and I can't really tell what they are from that.  But they don't sound like what you are talking about.

2. even if you are right, do they even do that anymore?  I thought that ended in the 17th century?



Basically, an indulgence is a price one pays to God, via the church of course, for a reduction in the consequences of sin. It is basically a bribe to bribe the judge.

It is a scam based on lies as no one can speak for God or decide what he will forgive or not.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2013, 11:32:10 AM »
$5000 for a rape? Are you f-ing kidding me??? For destruction of a woman's trust, for a trauma that will haunt her for the rest of her life? Damn right that's too low, although the entire concept of buying one's way into heaven is absurd and a horror.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2013, 12:35:42 PM »
$5000 for a rape? Are you f-ing kidding me??? For destruction of a woman's trust, for a trauma that will haunt her for the rest of her life? Damn right that's too low, although the entire concept of buying one's way into heaven is absurd and a horror.

I agree and think it a shame that it is a Christian staple.

I also agree on that price being way too low.

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2013, 02:03:19 PM »
Are we in a time machine? What Catholic church sells indulgences now? 

Anyway, I think it is crazy nowadays how the Puritans make their women run around with big red As on their bodices when they are pregnant out of wedlock.  ;)
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2013, 02:40:38 PM »
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Are we in a time machine? What Catholic church sells indulgences now? 


Have a look at post 19.

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Anyway, I think it is crazy nowadays how the Puritans make their women run around with big red As on their bodices when they are pregnant out of wedlock.  ;)

I think all religions that dictate how a free people dress is idiotic.
Such is a form of control and free people should not tolerate it.

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2013, 03:17:56 PM »
There aren't many laws against gullibility and stupidity. Unless infomercials are now banned and somebody forgot to tell me.

So it is ok then for a mainstream church to outright lie to it's members and secular law should not act to protect those members from theft. Nice morals that. Not.

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Who said that?
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2013, 03:19:47 PM »
I don't think Jesus is recorded as expressing it in that fashion, no.

Then, it's your opinion that you're covered by Jesus?

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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2013, 03:33:38 PM »
Indulgences;

1. are you sure you know what indulgences are?  I read the catholic encyclopedia website, and I can't really tell what they are from that.  But they don't sound like what you are talking about.

2. even if you are right, do they even do that anymore?  I thought that ended in the 17th century?



Basically, an indulgence is a price one pays to God, via the church of course, for a reduction in the consequences of sin. It is basically a bribe to bribe the judge.

It is a scam based on lies as no one can speak for God or decide what he will forgive or not.

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Did you even watch this? Besides the fact that her accent made me want to rip out my ear drums, this video does not at any point make references to buying your way out of anything.
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Re: Indulgences; moral or immoral? How much for a rape Pope Francis?
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2013, 03:52:01 PM »
There aren't many laws against gullibility and stupidity. Unless infomercials are now banned and somebody forgot to tell me.

So it is ok then for a mainstream church to outright lie to it's members and secular law should not act to protect those members from theft. Nice morals that. Not.

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Who said that?

Mine was a poorly worded question. I stated the logical conclusion instead of asking the question.

Do you think it moral for churches to outright lie to their sheep as they are doing with indulgences?

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2013, 03:54:31 PM »
Indulgences;

1. are you sure you know what indulgences are?  I read the catholic encyclopedia website, and I can't really tell what they are from that.  But they don't sound like what you are talking about.

2. even if you are right, do they even do that anymore?  I thought that ended in the 17th century?



Basically, an indulgence is a price one pays to God, via the church of course, for a reduction in the consequences of sin. It is basically a bribe to bribe the judge.

It is a scam based on lies as no one can speak for God or decide what he will forgive or not.

Regards
DL

Did you even watch this? Besides the fact that her accent made me want to rip out my ear drums, this video does not at any point make references to buying your way out of anything.

If you are not buying out of something then what are you buying?

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