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Casting out demons is antibiblical
« on: October 13, 2013, 11:40:46 AM »
So, I was discussing with an Evangelical Pastor and asked him to open his Bible in 2 Peter 2 where it says:
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For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

ME: If Devils are locked in hell how can they be tormenting people and people must go to Church to cast them out?
Pastor: Those are evil spirits of people, not angels.
ME: So, you believe in Spiritism?

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There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 11:54:30 AM »
Isn't Christianity fundamentally Spiritism?  From souls and resurrections to the "holy ghost" to exorcisms, it sounds an awful lot like some twisted offshoot of Spiritism to me.  That Deuteronomy quote is REALLY telling of how backwards Christianity is.
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 01:24:42 PM »
They always seem to have a cover answer.
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2013, 01:47:03 PM »
The Spook is not helping me figure any of this out ... but that bit from Deuteronomy seems to be saying not to get involved with all that particular brand of spiritual stuff, not that it doesn't exist or work - quite the opposite :o  God will protect you from it if you ignore it all  :police:

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Deuteronomy 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

It's a brand war.  Like Coke-a-Cola saying: "Stay away from Pepsi my child - you'll drink more Coke-a-Cola that way - and the Pepsi brand will diminish."
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2013, 03:35:24 PM »
Pastor: Those are evil spirits of people, not angels.

This is heresy: the spirits can only be of the dead, but:

Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.


So, you needn't worry about the spirits of the dead either.

Go an ask him again. : )

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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2013, 03:41:17 PM »
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neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.

But under the moon ... :o :o :o
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2013, 05:12:38 PM »
Pastor: Those are evil spirits of people, not angels.

This is heresy: the spirits can only be of the dead, but:

Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.


So, you needn't worry about the spirits of the dead either.

Go an ask him again. : )

Yes. I told him about this too.

The dead are waiting for the judgment day, they can't do anything.

And the evil angels (demons) are locked in hell as I posted above.

So, they can't be casting demons or spirits out. Funny how the bible itself works against them.
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2013, 05:16:48 PM »
Funny how the bible itself works against them.

I think it's funnier how the Bible works against itself.
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Re: Casting out demons is antibiblical
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2013, 05:25:02 PM »
It's a brand war.  Like Coke-a-Cola saying: "Stay away from Pepsi my child - you'll drink more Coke-a-Cola that way - and the Pepsi brand will diminish."

I would probably have worked a Kool-Aid reference into that, but sounds about right.  Yet another slick marketing campaign for the Christian radio stations.
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