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A-choo!
« on: September 17, 2013, 02:57:49 PM »
Alright.

I ask this primarily of native English speakers, but certainly anyone can chime in.

Are there any (sorta) common secular responses to a sneeze?  Yes, I get that responding to a sneeze is merely a part of the social contract and I don't actually believe someone wants me to be blessed by some higher power due to my sneeze, but I've been doing the 'Gesundheit' thing for a while now (funnily enough, probably didn't start until months had passed from my deconversion).

And 'Gesundheit' bugs me because...well, I don't really know.  Me having to steal a phrase from a language other than my native language?  I speak English for crying out loud...most of the language basically is stealing crap from other languages <insert joke regarding the British Empire or American Imperialism>.  But whatever; in any case I'd like to replace it.

From this:
http://www.noneexist.com/responsestosneezing/

I'm seriously contemplating using “The cold, vast universe is indifferent to your sneeze.” for the purpose of ironically sounding pompous and intellismart, but what secular, socially acceptable English responses are there to a sneeze that you have heard?
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 03:11:25 PM »
"Excuse you."  Simple and straightforward.

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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 03:12:35 PM »
I can't think of any. I use gesundheit.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 03:42:04 PM »
Alright.

I ask this primarily of native English speakers, but certainly anyone can chime in.

Are there any (sorta) common secular responses to a sneeze?  Yes, I get that responding to a sneeze is merely a part of the social contract and I don't actually believe someone wants me to be blessed by some higher power due to my sneeze, but I've been doing the 'Gesundheit' thing for a while now (funnily enough, probably didn't start until months had passed from my deconversion).

And 'Gesundheit' bugs me because...well, I don't really know.  Me having to steal a phrase from a language other than my native language?  I speak English for crying out loud...most of the language basically is stealing crap from other languages <insert joke regarding the British Empire or American Imperialism>.  But whatever; in any case I'd like to replace it.

From this:
http://www.noneexist.com/responsestosneezing/

I'm seriously contemplating using “The cold, vast universe is indifferent to your sneeze.” for the purpose of ironically sounding pompous and intellismart, but what secular, socially acceptable English responses are there to a sneeze that you have heard?

How about no reponse, because none is needed. Or, alternatively, "can I get you a tissue?"
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 03:47:00 PM »
I thought about this too... and simply saying "bless you" may indeed infer a god, it doesn't have to in my case.  Plenty say "god bless you" but, but I leave off the god.  Maybe you could go with a random list of deities... "thor bless you,"  "zeus bless you," etc? 

I think the whole concept is silly - that you are expected to respond to a sneeze, but you are right - it's part of the social contract (I never signed).  I also tend to just sneezes anymore.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 04:07:12 PM »
The term probably came from the Middle ages when the Black Death was around.  Or during one of the great flu kill offs.  It was a way of hoping you did not have something and hoping if you did God might save you.  Same with prayer before a meal.  Food safety was an issue way back.  You took your life in your hands at every meal...kind of like eating at Hardees today. ;)
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 04:59:12 PM »
I usually tell the person, "get it out", "you can do it", "if you sneeze on me I will beat the shit out of you".

You know, something mundane.

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 06:49:08 PM »
I use "Zeus bless you."  Because "Odin bless you" would seem sacrilegious. 

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 07:42:24 PM »
   I don't say anything. Not a big fan of traditions and customs.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 07:59:10 PM »
Back when I was taking Spanish in high school and college, I got in the habit of using "Salud!" (health / good health) in response to someone sneezing. Having been an atheist for nearly 8 years now, I've gone back to that.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 08:35:00 PM »
I throw salt on their tails.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 09:10:10 PM »
I throw salt on their tails.

Leave my tail alone!

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 09:46:36 PM »
If I feel that I'm in a situation where I have to say something I either say "gesundheit" or "Holy mother of all that is good and pure in the world keep your disease ridden walking copse away from my still young and virile body!!"  And yes I say it with the exclamation marks at the end. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 10:34:26 PM »
If I feel that I'm in a situation where I have to say something I either say "gesundheit" or "Holy mother of all that is good and pure in the world keep your disease ridden walking copse away from my still young and virile body!!"  And yes I say it with the exclamation marks at the end.

rev45 wins for the latter.  I'm stealing.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 11:21:32 PM »
"Better out than in." It's more typically a response for farting or vomiting, but it seems a good fit for sneezing as well. It might produce a mental image of someone impersonating a puffer fish, though. At least it does for me.

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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 03:51:58 AM »
I usually tell the person, "get it out", "you can do it", "if you sneeze on me I will beat the shit out of you".

Nam, I want to cover every inch of your gorgeous body with pepper, and then sneeze all over you![1]

It never occured to me, but indeed, Dutch, German and Czech all go for wishes of good health and avoid any gods (or indeed, invisible unicorns). Don't really know what the French use but I have heared "A votre santé"[2] ... though spoken rather mockingly ... so I don't know how common it is.
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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 04:45:49 AM »
I am whoregeous.

Wait, what?

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Re: A-choo!
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 05:24:18 AM »
I generally tend to say nothing when someone else sneezes as there are other bodily functions that are more note worthy.

That is unless it's a really good sneeze that is loud/prolonged/messy.
Then an appropriate humorous comment can be made based on the situation i.e. whilst in the office " I see your work allergy has flared up again, best you go home" to friends "did you just cum?" etc... Careful to make note that not all comments are interchangeable.

I say "excuse me" as soon as I can after I sneeze, just to get some words in before I get a good blessing from a well meaning god botherer/atheist who does it out of habit.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2013, 05:45:24 AM »
I also say "salud." 

My almost 7 year old daughter, however, has taken to saying "bless you."

If I decide to take her on the atheist conference circuit, I will need to address her behavior.  But as long as we find ourselves running in circles in which the secular mingle comfortably with adherents to the big three monotheistic religions, along with a smattering of Hindus and Buddhists, we are ok.

On another note, we are still working on the birthday party invite list.  Most of her close friends are not in her class this year, and she selected a classmate I don't know who she wants to invite.  I emailed the teacher, and asked her to forward the invitation to the parents of the child, since the school can't give out the email of other parents.  The parents haven't responded, so I asked my daughter if the girl's parents speak English.[1] 

She said "Yes!  They speak both English and Muslim." 
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2013, 06:51:01 AM »
I generally also just say "bless you". It occurs to me, though, that given how many other cultures use the same words they would in raising a glass for a toast, such as the aforementioned "salud", and the Polish "na zdrovie" (to your health!), maybe it would be appropriate to just use "cheers!".

Do they say that in England? I lived there as a kid, and have visited back a few times, but although I know "cheers" is used in response to any number of situations, I don't recall, offhand, whether a sneeze was one of them.

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2013, 06:53:35 AM »
Indeed, in Dutch, German and Czech, the same expression can be used when someone sneezes and when making a toast.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2013, 07:28:47 AM »
Do they say that in England? I lived there as a kid, and have visited back a few times, but although I know "cheers" is used in response to any number of situations, I don't recall, offhand, whether a sneeze was one of them.

Nah, its "bless you" for all religious denominations and atheists.

Cheers is interchangeable with thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2013, 07:37:59 AM »
Don't really know what the French use but I have heared "A votre santé"[1] ... though spoken rather mockingly ... so I don't know how common it is.
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What in French is *not* spoken rather mockingly?
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 07:39:05 AM »
Pen Jillette apparently says "that was funny!", but that doesn't seem at all right.

PErsonally, I just go for a hearty "Bravo!" if the sneeze was a particularly loud or messy one.  If it was small or quiet or stifled, I tend just to ignore.
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 08:28:09 AM »
Don't really know what the French use but I have heared "A votre santé"[1] ... though spoken rather mockingly ... so I don't know how common it is.
 1. lit: to your health

What in French is *not* spoken rather mockingly?

Erm ... I don't know ... "Ne tirez pas! Nous nous rendons!" ... maybe?
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2013, 09:04:40 AM »
Maybe I should say a hearty "No" right after I sneeze, so anyone who then follows with "god bless you" will have appropriately addressed me?
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2013, 09:24:04 AM »
Maybe I should say a hearty "No" right after I sneeze, so anyone who then follows with "god bless you" will have appropriately addressed me?

If you work on it you could incorporate the "NO" into the sneeze

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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2013, 09:27:22 AM »
For some reason this all made me wonder how you sneeze in different languages. "Ah-choo!" in English, in Polish it's pronounced as, roughly, "a-psheek"...anyone know some others?

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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2013, 12:17:48 PM »
Don't really know what the French use but I have heared "A votre santé"[1] ... though spoken rather mockingly ... so I don't know how common it is.
 1. lit: to your health

What in French is *not* spoken rather mockingly?

positive statements about France....sometimes.
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