Did I say it was? Let's take a look at my posts...hmm, I don't see anything that would indicate that. So I guess the answer is no, no I did not say stealing crap was acceptable. Neither did I imply it. Where you got that idea, I do not know. My point was this even if this kid did all the stuff they said he did, it was not worth killing him over.
I have to tell you G, few things push my buttons around here harder than putting words in my mouth.
No I suppose you didn't and I figured you didn't find it to be acceptable behavior. Your statement sounded like you defended his actions seeming the items were not worth all that much money. So I made a silly assumption and posted it.
I will apologize if my question came across as a scathing accusation or character assault. As that was not my intention.
Also I don't think its a huge part of the story, rather an assault on the character of Brown.
I think that approach leaves too much up to the police. You are essentially deferring all judgment to them.
I suppose I am. Honestly I haven't heard to much other than the word of the police outside of this website. Perhaps a system is needed to police the police? There seems to be a lot of trust the police in the current system. I would like to believe that cops are honest guys like you and me and we can use the trust system. Then you have incidents like this and the 12 year old kid.
Did I say it was? Let's look at my post. Hmm. I don't see where I wrote that. In fact, immediately after I wrote "minor incidents", I gave an example of what I was talking about :"selling onesies". So it looks like G is pushing my buttons again.
But I was on a roll with the silly accusations! Go big or go home!
The onesies? Was that the guy who was choked to death (I think he was choked to death) by the police for selling cigarettes?
That said, getting punched in the face once or twice is minor relative to killing someone. Is that where we are at as a nation, now? Nobody can take an ass kicking anymore?
You know I am glad you said that because I have been asking that question since the Treyvon Martin tragedy. I always thought cops where of something more than you average citizen and would shoot someone as the very last option. Perhaps I was wrong about them or times have changed... Or maybe I shouldn't paint all cops with the same brush. But it does seem that people are quicker to shoot others because they fear a good old fashioned ass kicking. Maybe its always been that way? Maybe the media scares people? I don't know but I agree that it seems that way.
Cops get to kill people in order to avoid a little discomfort? Look at the rude pundit link above. Every day police handle bad guys without killing them and without brutality. Pieces of crap like Wilson undermine our trust in the good ones.
Did you say earlier that you didn't think Brown assaulted Wilson? I don't recall and its easier to just ask you than to go back digging through posts.
Do you feel there is a time that its ok for police to use lethal force? If so at what point?
He wasn't defending himself when he killed Brown. Allegedly, he shot Brown at the car to defend himself. Brown ran away. Wilson shot at him some more. Not self defense. Brown stopped, turned around and either surrendered or charged, depending which version you believe. Still not self defense. In my opinion, Wilson shot because he was upset and just because he could. It was less complicated that way.
To my understanding he shot at the car and missed (I think he missed). Then when Brown turned to leave Wilson radioed in and started to pursuit. Brown then supposedly charged, which I do admit makes little since.
Accusing him of shooting him for no reason sounds like quite the accusation. But perhaps if he was scared or in the "heat of battle" or something along those lines it makes since.
I will have to read the links you and Azdgari provided if I ever get the chance.
What do you think of cameras on cops?
Wonderful idea, provided the correct rules are in place. Cops must be punished for not turning them on, or for turning them off when they should be on. The video must not be under police control. The video must be available to anyone who requests it. Given that, I think it is a boon for both police and citizens. Cops behave better. People behave better. Data shows this is true.
I agree that it should be in some other organizations control outside of the police. I think that would remove any accusations of the police tampering with the film to cover for their own.
All I have heard is talking points on it on tv. I was wondering what others think of it.
That is what a grand jury is supposed to decide - whether the prosecution has enough merit to go onto a full trial. The DA works closely with the police - they're on the same team, so to speak. So, few DAs ever want to try a cop. He didn't want an indictment because a trial is too much of a toss-up.
I think if a US citizen is killed they deserve a trial. A huge let down IMO.