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Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« on: August 12, 2013, 05:21:26 PM »
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/12/19986524-baby-cant-be-named-messiah-judge-rules?lite

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A Tennessee judge has ordered a baby boy’s name to be changed from “Messiah” after deciding it is a title that has “only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ.”

NBC station WBIR reported that the parents of the 7-month-old went to a child support hearing in Cocke County Chancery Court because they could not agree on his surname.

However, Child Support Magistrate Lu Ann Ballew decided Thursday that the baby, Messiah DeShawn Martin, should be renamed “Martin DeShawn McCullough.”

So nice of judge Lu Ann to name their baby for them. That ruling isn't going to last.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 05:35:38 PM »
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“I never intended on naming my son Messiah because it means God and I didn't think a judge could make me change my baby's name because of her religious beliefs,” she said.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 06:11:24 PM »
I saw this over on facebook. If someone can call their baby Moonunit or Chastity, I don't see how Messiah is a problem. Lots of latinos are named Jesus (pronounced Hay-soos in Spanish). This judge (and whomever reported them) has a problem.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 06:14:10 PM »
The judge should have called him Sue. He'll need to grow up tough and all that jazz.

Other countries have rules much worse than this. In Norway, a guy wanted to change his name to Harley Davidson (he was obviously a motorcycle nut), but they made him change it to Harley Davidsen (note the 'e' rather than an 'o') because Norway ends such names with the 'en' while those lousy Swedes use 'on'. And they like keeping things different.

Not the same thing, and perhaps not quite as stupid a reason, but at least it isn't without precedence.

On the bright side, when the kids joins this site in 15 or 16 years as an atheist, his first name will be easier for him to live with.

But the judge was an asshole. It isn't his call. Especially his reasoning. And especially since there used to be lots of people calling themselves the messiah. Even before Facebook. But hey, maybe this will be the worst thing that ever happens to the kid, and he'll end up being pretty happy because of it.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 06:23:25 PM »
And I understand the original complaint had something to do with the last name.  The judge put herself into the mix by focusing on the 1st name.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 07:49:51 PM »
Don't know whether the parents will have any interest in appealing, but if they do, this will almost certainly be thrown out.  Laws on this vary from state to state here in the US, but for the most part, state law says that you can change your name to anything you want to, so long as it's not for any unlawful purpose (such as trying to evade people you owe money to).  The bar is higher in some states than in others -- for example, a college friend of mine from a different state had to appear in court and explain to a judge why he wanted to change his name, whereas I only had to fill out some forms, notarize them, and run a legal notice in the newspaper.  So long as you meet those minimal requirements, though, courts have almost always ruled in favor of the name change, even in cases like Prince, who filed to have his name changed to a symbol that had no pronunciation.[1]
 1. Although, after he began to be referred to as "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince", some people said that the new name should be pronounced "taffcap".
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 11:34:02 PM »
What's the judge going to when somebody called Muhammad or Jesus turns up in court?
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 12:43:13 PM »
What's the judge going to when somebody called Muhammad or Jesus turns up in court?
Or for more fun, how about Lucifer:


http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/family-parenting/family-life/worst-baby-names-of-2016?page=11
Damn, that pic is frightening. ;)
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 01:04:07 PM »
can I name my kid Jealous?
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 01:10:31 PM »
I think the parents should have the right to name their kid whatever they want, although I also think the name is stupid and will create difficulties for the child later in life.

As for Lucifer, a while back I wanted to be named that IRL. However, if I'm not mistaken, it's not allowed here in Portugal. Fucking christians and their Bible translations.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 01:11:33 PM »
^^You can name him Jelous but you can't name him Jesous.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 05:38:08 PM »
I don't think the judge should have the authority to require the parents change the child's name, but the judge probably did him a favor.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 09:20:41 PM »
I think Messiah, without all the baggage, is actually a really nice sounding name.
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 11:16:48 PM »
sounds like a rapper name...
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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 03:39:52 PM »
A few days after I read an article about this topic, I saw a birth announcement in my local paper (Southern Maryland) for a boy who was named...Messiah.

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Re: Judge: cannot name baby "Messiah"
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2013, 08:39:27 PM »
It is the judge's overtly religious reasoning that is wildly inappropriate here.  It wasn't about the child's future or the reason for the name--it was about his personal religious beliefs.  He should lose his job!