Just wish you guys could put up some decent opposition. You seem to prefer the short wise cracks. And I don't think its off topic at all. I actually think its a pretty accurate assessment. Of course, you could try and prove me wrong. :-) So far, I don't see any evidence to the contrary. I mean look how long you guys have been here and you're still banging on with the same old stuff. Don't you get bored? Or do you like the feeling you get from being "right". Plato would class that as prideful behaviour, me thinks. :-)
EES, I like the story of the wolf. I find it's wisdom a good assessment of human behavior. But you are missing the point of WWGHA and why we persist, IMO.
For example: Today, Nidal Hasan got indicted for killing American soldiers as part of jihad (As an aside, killing unjust soldiers worldwide can be understandable, but is that jihad?)
.................soldiers and civilians testified of hearing someone scream "Allahu akbar!" — Arabic for "God is great!" — and seeing a man in Army camouflage open fire inside a medical building on the base. Many identified Hasan as the shooter and recalled his handgun's red and green laser sights piercing a room made dark with gun smoke.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jihad (English pronunciation: /d???h??d/; Arabic: ????? ?ih?d [d?i?hæ?d]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, the word jih?d translates as a noun meaning "struggle". Within the context of the classical Islam, particularly the Shiahs beliefs, it refers to struggle against those who do not believe in Islamic God (Allah). However, the word has even wider implications.
Jihad is commonly used term for "Holy War", Jihad means "to struggle in the way of Allah". Jihad appears 41 times in the Quran and frequently in the idiomatic expression "striving in the way of God (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)". A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid; the plural is mujahideen. Jihad is an important religious duty for Muslims. A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status. In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, Jihad is one of the 10 Practices of the Religion.
These days it seems some Muslims would carry out Jihad against atheists quietly working in their gardens, or even religious Americans, starting up their computers in the world trade center, huh?
That is why this website must persist, debating the definition of ****.
I know why, you exist and that expressed intention is honourable. However, as i said almost a year or so ago. You guys, and religions, are barking up the wrong tree. At the time, I couldn't prove my point. Know I think I can.
What, I have done in that research effort was identify a consistent story that runs from 538BC to 325AD. This history (or theory of you prefer) shows that Prophecy and miracles were made up to serve power.
The part of the research that deals with your concern is the Book of Daniel. Written in 160BC not 538BC, as is it's pretence, it is the first time the angel Gabriel is mentioned. Now if it was made up, which I am very confident it was, what does that say about Muhammad's story about his vision with this made up angel. Whilst that's outside my scope and needs further research, I do suggest a motive for Muhammad's creativity. And he wasn't the first. This form of creativity is the pattern that brings the MAGIc to Judaism (with Cyrus), Nerva and the Flavians for Christianity.
No Prophecy, No Angels, No Jihad.
Maybe, it'll be another year or so, but let's see how it unfolds shall we. Anyway these banters are go(o)d practice. Just wish one of you people would engage the material. But that's ok. It's go(o)d prep for the religious folks. As I've said before you guys, in general, are just like another group of believers :-)