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Umar Called me Militant
« on: July 10, 2013, 08:22:02 AM »
Umar, our newest Christian who says he used to be an atheist (yeah right), says I, in reply to me in his Intro, based on my reply to him, that I am a "Militant atheist". I've never been called that, not even close to that, but is that what I come across as?

I thought I just came across as an asshole? Am I slipping?

I need help! I need to get back to being just the asshole. Unless I'm not slipping he really just doesn't know what a militant atheist actually is, and slightly proves he never was an atheist because he's just making it up as he goes along, or like some of the others who've come here: using a playbook or promoting their website to us heathens.

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2013, 09:51:59 AM »
Say 3 Hail Mary's and do 3 back flips and you will be back to just an asshole. ;)
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2013, 04:39:24 PM »
Say 3 Hail Mary's and do 3 back flips and you will be back to just an asshole. ;)

I was never Catholic. Does it matter?

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 05:01:27 PM »
But you look so much like Rambo!

Umar is a newbie at too many things to be taken seriously. But it sounds like he has pimped his religion and hence is happy as a clam. And anyone not driving his model of the bible is likely to be dissed one way or the other.

Actually, you should be happy. He didn't mistake you for a brother in arms.

 If he ever was an atheist, it was an accident. No thought was involved. He is certainly not clear on the concept.

Added: Forgot. Don't worry. You're still just a plain old ordinary asshole. So don't let people label you  ;D
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 05:23:28 PM »
I vote you are still an asshole... don't let the man get you down, Nam.

From his posts, he was born an atheist (dare I say like many are) but quickly got over it when the family of origen broke out their selected holy book.

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 08:06:37 PM »
PP,

Thanks man, I needed that. And after seeing Junebug giving me like 5 smites in the past 24 hours, I must be doing it right.

:P

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 10:22:06 PM »
Relax, Nam. From your last few posts I don't see any change in your role as forum misanthrope / asshole.

Who knows what "militant atheist" means to Umar. Perhaps he'll elaborate.

All too often, I find Christians use the term to refer to atheists that refuse to be silent. Particularly in the US, many Christians are unused to having their position of privilege questioned. So any challenge in that regard rubs them raw.
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 11:08:16 PM »
Can I be a militant atheist too? Please, pretty please? Does the title come with kick-a$$ militant atheist super-hero costumes? I want to look like Natasha Romanov. Only if she was black, dreadlocked, 50-something, and fat.  ;D

So, okay, I don't look much like Black Widow. Hey, I've seen Russian women my age. They've generally had 8 kids, and don't look much like Scarlett Johannsen, either. They can kick some a$$, though. 8)
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 04:10:09 AM »
Can I be a militant atheist too? Please, pretty please? Does the title come with kick-a$$ militant atheist super-hero costumes? I want to look like Natasha Romanov. Only if she was black, dreadlocked, 50-something, and fat.  ;D

So, okay, I don't look much like Black Widow. Hey, I've seen Russian women my age. They've generally had 8 kids, and don't look much like Scarlett Johannsen, either. They can kick some a$$, though. 8)
I don't know.  If your costume has a big "A" on the front people might read t wrong...especially if it is red.
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 05:44:24 AM »
he really just doesn't know what a militant atheist actually is,
Tell him that to an atheist, a "militant atheist" is someone more atheist than they themselves are, but to a believer, a "militant atheist" is someone who merely questions the existence of any god.

It's like alcoholics - alcoholics are people who drink more than I do.
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 06:07:54 AM »
Quote
mil•i•tant (?m?l ? t?nt)

adj.
1. vigorously active, esp. in support of a cause: militant reformers.

Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

So, that basically just means that you type quickly.
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 08:42:53 AM »
he really just doesn't know what a militant atheist actually is,
Tell him that to an atheist, a "militant atheist" is someone more atheist than they themselves are, but to a believer, a "militant atheist" is someone who merely questions the existence of any god.

It's like alcoholics - alcoholics are people who drink more than I do.

This is one of the reasons why I don't believe he was ever an atheist to begin with. Former atheists know what the varying degrees of atheists are and don't clump them up into one group. Of course I have yet to meet an actual "former atheist".

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 08:43:57 AM »
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mil•i•tant (?m?l ? t?nt)

adj.
1. vigorously active, esp. in support of a cause: militant reformers.

Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

So, that basically just means that you type quickly.

I do type 126 wpm.

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 08:45:25 AM »
he really just doesn't know what a militant atheist actually is,
Tell him that to an atheist, a "militant atheist" is someone more atheist than they themselves are, but to a believer, a "militant atheist" is someone who merely questions the existence of any god.

It's like alcoholics - alcoholics are people who drink more than I do.

This is one of the reasons why I don't believe he was ever an atheist to begin with. Former atheists know what the varying degrees of atheists are and don't clump them up into one group. Of course I have yet to meet an actual "former atheist".

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After I die, I'll be a former atheist. We can talk then  ;D
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 08:53:15 AM »
Okay but you better be hot. ;)

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2013, 10:20:27 AM »
This is one of the reasons why I don't believe he was ever an atheist to begin with. Former atheists know what the varying degrees of atheists are and don't clump them up into one group. Of course I have yet to meet an actual "former atheist".

-Nam
I don't think that's necessarily true - former atheists don't necessarily have to understand 'varying degrees of atheists' if the s/he was an atheist by default.  Meaning, if Umar was an atheist by the sheer fact that he did not take any consideration regarding the existence of god (and therefore had no belief in the existence of god), then it's certainly possible that Umar has no idea what 'atheist' actually means.

Not having a belief in god doesn't necessarily mean that one has put any thought into an atheist/theist position.

I wouldn't doubt that Umar is a former atheist - I would doubt that Umar identified as an atheist prior to belief in god.

P.S.
I don't think you're an asshole[1], just harsh.  Suck on them apples :)
 1. This is sorta an inverse 'complisult'
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 10:39:43 AM »
^did you read his Intro?

And you made me cry by not accepting the asshole I am. :'(

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2013, 11:19:22 AM »
Have no fear Nam, you will always be our favorite asshole.

 8)

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2013, 12:46:38 PM »
Have no fear Nam, you will always be our favorite asshole.

 8)



Awww....you make me feel so special.

:P

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2013, 06:16:09 PM »
"When we landed on the moon, that was the point where god should have come up and said 'hello'. Because if you invent some creatures, put them on the blue one and they make it to the grey one, you f**king turn up and say 'well done'."
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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »
Yep, that kinda special.

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 06:06:16 PM »
Did Umar leave? I hope not, this guy looks like fun. Might draw me back for a few posts.  :)

Umar are you out there?

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2013, 08:28:19 PM »
I might have scared him away by pointing out the obvious. I should stop doing that.

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2013, 08:34:47 PM »
I might have scared him away by pointing out the obvious. I should stop doing that.

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You pointed out the obvious? You asshole!  :)

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Re: Umar Called me Militant
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2013, 04:54:22 PM »
:'(

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