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Offline pianodwarf

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Suggestion.. [#2749]
« on: July 07, 2013, 10:43:54 AM »
A Suggestion…
 
I believe it might be useful for an independent organization to research the miracles attributed to present and future saints of the catholic church….
 
We wouldn’t want the church to make a mistake and give sainthood to an undeserving person….
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 01:30:38 PM »
How about an atheist group?  Can't get more independent than that. ;)
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 03:12:50 PM »
if there is one thing the C church is interested in... it's not making mistakes.  see galilieo, altar boys, etc
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 03:40:30 PM »
Quote from: pianodwarf on July 07, 2013, 10:43:54 AM
A Suggestion…
 
I believe it might be useful for an independent organization to research the miracles attributed to present and future saints of the catholic church….
 
We wouldn’t want the church to make a mistake and give sainthood to an undeserving person….

Popes and everyone else aren't "saints". None of them.

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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 04:01:49 PM »
Quote from: pianodwarf on July 07, 2013, 10:43:54 AM

We wouldn’t want the church to make a mistake and give sainthood to an undeserving person….

The Catholic Church doesn't make mistakes.


Ever.....  &)
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 01:22:09 PM »
Quote from: Emily on July 07, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: pianodwarf on July 07, 2013, 10:43:54 AM

We wouldn’t want the church to make a mistake and give sainthood to an undeserving person….

The Catholic Church doesn't make mistakes.


Ever.....  &)

I dealt with one nutbag....Maggie the Opinionated and her take on this more or less is ludicous:

The organization is composed of fallible people who make mistakes. However the church as a spiritual entity and cannot make mistakes.

Yeah under the underlying spiritual substance clause that allow for the literal transubstantiation, but not a testable one &)
« Last Edit: July 16, 2013, 02:13:55 PM by Hatter23 »
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 02:47:25 PM »
Who hasn't dealt with Maggie-Who-Knows-It-All?

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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 05:14:58 PM »
She gave me the only negative darwins I have ever received. Sigh. Those were the days. :'(
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 09:57:11 PM »
She's the main reason I won't go back to isgodimaginary. I can't believe they tolerate her shit.
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 10:45:57 PM »
Quote from: Traveler on July 30, 2013, 09:57:11 PM
She's the main reason I won't go back to isgodimaginary. I can't believe they tolerate her shit.

She's currently in the corner there, for, I believe the next 40 days. But if she keeps on using derogatory words toward staff members it may be indefinite or she may be banned.

On a separate note: I too am in the corner. I, however, find it hilarious.

They are becoming quite conservative these days.

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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 12:38:44 AM »
Quote from: Emily on July 07, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
The Catholic Church doesn't make mistakes.


Ever.....  &)

Well I'm not so sure about that Emily. 
See they used to say an altar stone needed two Class I relics buried in it for the altar magic to work properly - but then they realised their mistake (clearly magic is not additive) and so changed it to just one Class I relic:   
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... according to the Pontificale Romanum (De Eccles. Consecratione) the relics of two canonized martyrs, although the Cong. Sac. Rit. (16 February 1906) decided that if the relic of only one martyr is placed in it the consecration is valid, ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altar_(Catholicism)

Their honesty in addressing this matter is comforting .... no? :angel:
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 03:56:10 AM »
The catholic church has changed their tune on numerous subjects. I dated a guy who had studied to become a priest. He told me some of the details of changes over time, and I was shocked. No, I don't recall details, but they were pretty fundamental changes.
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 04:07:11 AM »
The whole idea of "sainthood" is ridiculous.

There are no miracles, never has been, just unexplained incidents that some bozo puts his hand up for.
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2013, 06:39:48 AM »
Quote from: pianodwarf on July 07, 2013, 10:43:54 AM
A Suggestion…
 
I believe it might be useful for an independent organization to research the miracles attributed to present and future saints of the catholic church….
 
We wouldn’t want the church to make a mistake and give sainthood to an undeserving person….

Quote from: Nick on July 07, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
How about an atheist group?  Can't get more independent than that. ;)

I think that first each sect of the major religions should put forward what they see as an incontravertable miracle, and all the other sects of that religion would attempt to debunk it. Once an undebunkable miracle has been found, that sect's miracle goes forward to compete against the winners from other religions.

Finally, we will know which one is the "One True Faith" and which god is the "One True God."
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2013, 08:29:35 AM »
^^^ that would make for an interesting reality tv show... sort of like survivor as each sect gets voted off faith island. what happens when there is no one left or it all breaks out into a bloody religious war?
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2013, 08:37:47 AM »
When they are voted off the Earth opens up and they fall into a fiery pit.  Man, would that get ratings or what?
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Re: Suggestion.. [#2749]
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2013, 01:17:42 PM »
The RC church did have a "Devil's Advocate" for nearly 400 years whose job was to make the case against canonisation of a proposed saint.

JP2 got rid of the post and starting creating saints wholesale.
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