Oh no! Not the Fibonacci again!

[Sketchiii]

I remember that Eissak recently went on a rant about this sequence. Headaches were had. But my Aunt had this lecture playing in her car for a good while and I was forced to listen to it:

It seems to be a bit more coherent and convincing. Additionally even if it was a mark of a creator, the vid tries to prove that that creator was yahweh.

I'm young and still working on these skeptic/reasoning skills. I would appreciate it if you guys could reach to about 3/4 of the vid ( how much I had  to listen to) and help me in sifting through the fact/fiction or plain lies and ideas. Its been on my mind and a discussion would help to un(fuck/clutter) my mind.

[Nam]

So you want to force us to listen to it?



-Nam

[Sketchiii]

So you want to force us to listen to it?



-Nam

Ha. It is long isn't it.
Probably have it in the background while doing something.
Just wish to have people to discuss it with since its been on my mind.

[Samothec]

I'm young and still working on these skeptic/reasoning skills. I would appreciate it if you guys could reach to about 3/4 of the vid ( how much I had  to listen to) and help me in sifting through the fact/fiction or plain lies and ideas. Its been on my mind and a discussion would help to un(fuck/clutter) my mind.

I skimmed though about 40 minutes of that and all I saw/heard was a lot of inaccurate (at best) claims coupled with conflating things which should not have been brought together. If you have no clue about science and math and don't pay attention to facts, it sounds good - it sounds authoritative. That doesn't change the fact that it is crap. For example, the bit about rolled up scrolls having a curl that matches the golden ratio - no, not at all. And a similar claim about hurricanes - again, crap. Any old spiral doesn't contain the golden ratio - that is a specific shape.

The golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence are found in nature because nature is quite economical and they represent some of the most economical ways to pattern something. The Fibonacci sequence is created via a simple rule of adding the two most recent numbers to get the next one. One simple rule. Economical. In every life form there is a balancing act between spending and conserving energy from the moment the egg or seed is fertilized. The life form needs to spend energy to develop, grow, gather energy, etc. But if it spends too much, it will die. Always a careful balance. But there is no magic. Majesty, yes. Beautifully economical, yes. Divine magic, no.

[Fiji]

What Samothec said ... plus (and this will be disjoint as I'm typing as I'm going along) that he keeps jumping back and forth between, X IS Fibonacci and Y looks a bit like Fibonacci. But what you remember is "oooh, it's all Fibonacci".
Also, he just plain lies in places. Like where he discusses the bones of the hand. grab a tapemeasure and check it. For the VAST majority of people, you won't find the fibonacci sequence.

He tops this off with jumping back and forth in the bible between verses that just happen to fit, connecting verses entire books apart that have nothing to do with eachother but he draws a links between them anyway.

He also pulls a few number games from his ... holy book. Which, you can do with any sizable book. You could play this game with Harry Potter. One example is the number of times the word 'temple' is used compared with the number of bones in the body. OK, they match up ... so what? If you start with the number of bones in the body, and go looking in the bible for some sort of pattern that adds up to that number, you'll sooner or later find such a pattern.
Remember that Harold Camping joker? He played a similar game and was absolutely sure he had predicted the second coming ... Yet, we still seem to be here.
He also frequently goes "X contains exactly 46/23/4/(whatever number is convenient here) words!" ... ok, in which translation?

"The bible tells us X" ... erm, no, science showed us X, he's just digging up a verse that can be twisted into X.
Which verse tells us how to pull off cold fusion? Warp drive? Cure AIDS? Switch to a hydrogen economy?
None of them, until science figures it out, and then people will be finding bible (or quran for that matter) verses that 'exactly' tell us how to do these thing.

Another big revelation ... The book Genesis matches the word gene!!! Riiiiiight, that might be because they're derived from the same word.

"DNA is sugar!" ... minute or two later ... "DNA is stone!"
If you twist and turn enough ... everything is related to everything.

And to wrap it all up ... whence the link between the golden ratio and the god of the bible ... he may have mentioned this, but what's stopping a Muslim from presenting the golden ratio as proof for Allah's existance? Or a follower of any religion to use it as proof for their god. Neat numbers therefor my particular god ... why?