what about adoption. what about relatives taking care of it on temporary basis. I want abortion to be legal.
i don't think abortion is supposed to be a solution to poverty. Given a large percentage of women who want abortions are not poor, it ends being an excuse for all of them.
given our country doesn't do anything about illegals, that is a silly talking point. many states give them drivers licenses. lol
those are some interesting anecdotes but given I care more about babies than you do, as demonstrated by our disagreement on abortion, I'm not sure it matters if you held the hand of a woman giving birth or one dying. etc
Because when abortion is illegal, more women and girls die, along with the fetus. Kids are left without their mom, husbands without their wife, families without their daughter.
I have lived in places where abortion was illegal. Hospital wards have to treat women maimed and dying from desperate attempts to self-abort, or from badly done illegal abortions. I worked in one of those hospitals. I could link you to some photos, but you won't look at them. You want to think that banning abortion would make the world a better place. You want to live in a fantasy land where women enduring 10 or 12 pregnancies in their lives and having to raise 8 surviving children is just fine.
Other than that I don't think we are in disagreement on abortion.
Since you think states should not even let illegal immigrants have driver's licenses, I doubt you care about how many are pregnant or already have children when they get deported.http://www.statisticbrain.com/number-of-u-s-deportations/
Statistics, not anecdotes. Not that you will pay any attention, but hundreds of thousands of undocumented people do get deported every year. Some of them are women with children. And some of them are pregnant women who have to decide whether to keep their families together or not. Most women who get pregnant have the baby.
The women who do not want to have a baby are the minority. So, yes, the vast majority of pregnant women are already relying on adoption or help from family and church and government welfare programs.
Most women having abortions are not rock-bottom poor, just as you say. But they are not rich, either. Rich women do not have to go to family planning clinics, let alone back alley providers. They have more stable incomes, better health insurance, have access to more reliable birth control and go to private doctors instead of clinic for their "female problems".
Women who go to places like Planned Parenthood for health care, including abortion, are working poor and middle class; many are without health insurance. Some are having the abortion so they will not become poor
. Having a baby might mean having to quit a job or go to part-time work, or spend most of one of your part time job wages on child care. So, you are right --abortion is not a solution to poverty. Neither is having children when you can barely afford to support yourself on a minimum wage job.
Since you care so much more about babies than I do, I assume you are doing more then just talk about how much you hate abortion on the internet. You are willing to change your life around completely to help babies. Just as you expect a woman to do if she gets pregnant and does not want the child.
1)I assume you are currently financially supporting as many children as you can afford.
2)I assume you have already adopted several unwanted children, and are fighting hard for gay people to be able to adopt in your state.
3)I assume you have never had unprotected sex and fight to get good sex education into your community's schools.
4)I assume you are helping the women in your community with child care and helping them to pay for their health expenses. How many kids are you babysitting so their moms can work or go to school?
5)I assume you have helped immigrant women without papers find jobs and decent places to live so they can keep their families together.
6)I assume you have lobbied your state to raise the minimum wage and give everyone decent health care.
7)And of course you are in favor of expanding welfare benefits for any women who have babies.
If you have not done any of these things, you are just another internet poseur
, talking a big line of bullsh!t and never doing anything about anything. And you have made an a$$ out of you and me.