As a educated born again christian I decided to get just a bit more involved in discussions, as I belive we as christians ows especially scientists and other skilled persons a some more respectfull conversation.
Well, that's nice of you. Better than some of the religious nuts that come to this website bound and determined to convert the heathen atheists to their point of view.
My belife is it that God has choosen to work in the creation by the laws he made for the creation. He does not ad or remove mass or energy, for the short period of time in the first stage of creating human beeings with free will given in a "safe" or at least temporary enviroment, where as some of us belive to be the only possible deffination of existance.
Could I suggest that you turn on your browser spellchecker? I don't normally bring this up, but there are at least six misspelled words here that were flagged by mine just as part of your quote. Anyway, it sounds like you're saying that God is running a simulation of some kind (think like SimCity, perhaps SimUniverse?), and thus he's playing by the rules even though he could activate the cheat codes and do whatever he wanted, within the bounds of the scenario.
It seems to me that everything God wants to do on the Earth, he chooses to do trough people, for whom he has a uniq plan for that they freely chosse to folow to different degrees. They might even choos to use their God given talents to work totally aginst the plan witch they were created for. Lack of food is not the main reason for for poverty, war is. If peoples with no moral should prosper to much, history tells us, it's a disaster for so many human beeings. Sertenly God interveins, but he does not remove our mandate to rule the world, as we have cosen the knowlege of good and evil, God does not constantly remove evil as soon as it occurs, how ever, he give ut insights that some day he will remove evil.
10 misspellings here. And this sounds like pretty typical Christian doctrine, although it seems like you're suggesting that God doesn't remove evil right now so that we can choose between good and evil...but he will remove evil at some point in the future. So, why the ambiguousness? Why work through completely flawed books, which could easily be altered by people with their free will, distorting or even removing the message he's trying to send? Why the requirement of faith?
To me life without fait, makes to little sense. We get born, knowing nothing. Then develop and advance for no reason but to die old and vise, and as the light goes out our knowlage dies with us, lest preserved by some number of generations after us, maybe even until the precise enviorment for our lives cease to substain.
This is true, but at the same time, it's not true. Certainly, at some point in the long-distant future, every human will be dead, our knowledge (excepting what we've recorded) with us. For that matter, at some point in the even more long-distant future, entropy will have eroded any meaningful information in the universe. But so what? A world without gods just means that we have to make the best of what we have and plan for the future, rather than relying on someone to hit the reset button later on, or change the parameters of the scenario.
I see this life as a little start, a tryout if you want, to a life where time has no existance as we know it from sycluses in the uiverse. By the way, pardon my written english, I'm more of a practical then theorethical person, and english is not my native language.
I understand, but I still recommend a spellchecking add-on. I bet you can find one that works in English.
I'm not sure were to start, I'm quite impressed by the time and effort people here put in to prove "God is Not Great". A book many here might have read..?
Nope, can't say I've ever heard of it.
Christopher Hitchens brother however, Peter was maybe an even more dedicated atheist, whom took a longer steep of faith in his "religion" that states "No God, happy world, or something"? But the atheist paradise which then was called "The Soviet Union" just proved to him how very broken this world is without God.
I would hardly call the Soviet Union an "atheist paradise". Forget the rhetoric you've heard about it - the reason the Soviets went after organized religion was so that the Central Committee of the Communist Party wouldn't have any competition. It's the same reason democracy was so dangerous to them.
Certainly there is no perfect christian civilization ether, but if you please prove to me better civilization, I might listen with another excitement.
Actually, Christian countries were pretty awful for most of their histories, and you should see the wars that they fought.
However, the USA, which was founded as a secular country rather than a Christian one, is put together pretty well. It's survived over two hundred years of Christians trying to ruin it in favor of their religious beliefs, at any rate.
I believe the greatest issue in the dialog between Christians and atheists are the very different question we have. When the atheist looks for a better theory of how life came about, the christian looks for better testimony of how Gods love could be shown. Jesus stated "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." You see most Christians have in some way had an "spiritual" encounter with God, that gives some feelings to Gods love, and not just a theory. Of course in a worldview with no spirits, that encounter is most likely to be interpreted as a mental breakdown. But what can I say? You are very eager to say that other peoples experience is wrong, because you never had it yourself. And the debate ends up in many other stupid things, like Christians being against science, when most Christians are very happy about science.
The idea of spirits and spiritual connections isn't necessarily a mental breakdown. In fact, most atheists identify it as SPAG - self projection as god. In other words, the religious believer is projecting themselves as God, and thus can very easily establish a 'spiritual' connection with their image of God without there being an actual god to connect with. Not only that, but it is a common Christian belief, and to a large degree, beliefs make their own reality.