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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2013, 08:26:33 PM »
Remind me to stay out of Texas. Not only because I could be shot dead if I refused to deliver services previously arranged for. Just on principle. BTW is prostitution legal in god-humpin' Texas these days?

No, prostitution is not legal in Texas, per se, but you wouldn't know that by all the whorehouses ... err ... I mean, strip clubs in Houston. They are only a couple of miles from Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church.


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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2013, 11:26:10 PM »
Baltimore is not awful, nor quite as dangerous as it is made out to be.

I was there a year ago.  It was a mixed bag.  I couldn't walk 10 yards without a beggar hitting me up for money.  And it was the usual baloney scam: "I am driving a bus for a church group that broke down a couple blocks away.  We need some money to repair the bus..." 

In the inner harbor they have pedestrian bridges from the hotels.  Several homeless people used them to do number 2s in them.

Lexington St market is a wonderful place.  I ate oysters there the size of my palm.  No joke.  and the crab cakes are for-flipping-real.  However, to get there you must run a gauntlet through one of the worst neighborhoods I have ever been through in my life. Cracked out zombies shuffle along the sidewalks.

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The crab cake mecca
Of Baltimore but beware
Crackheads everywhere

This place was awesome.  Great food choices for every taste and an interesting crowd.  You get the ultimate Baltimore experience:  crackheads and crab cakes!
Totally true.

I ate a shit-ton of crabs at Moe's.  I also drank a lot of beer.  It brought me as close to the divine as I can imagine.  There is another Moe's around the block, but it's a pretender. Eat not there.

There are good things in Baltimore. There is also danger and shit.   I mean both literally.  Like everything, it is not monolithic.  I would go back for Moe's and to watch the Yankees beat the piss out of the Uh-Os. (I flipping love baseball.)  I have very good things to say about Camden Yards, though do not buy crab cakes at the park.

It seemed to me Baltimore needed more blue collar jobs and less tourist bullshit.  You just cannot support a city that size with tourism at the waterfront.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2013, 05:19:44 AM »
This is not Gun Fail as much as Justice Fail (a gun was used):

Jury Acquits Texas Man For Murder Of Escort Who Refused Sex

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A Texas jury acquitted a man for the murder of a woman he hired as an escort, after his lawyers claimed he was authorized to use deadly force because she refused sex.

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This shockingly broad statute authorizes individuals to take not just law enforcement, but punishment, into their own hands and impose death for alleged offenses that would never warrant the death penalty even if the person were convicted in court.

Apparently the jury decided that, by golly, she should have given back that $150 he gave her in the first place.

I'm guessing the "open for business" sign in Texas just got flipped to "CLOSED" for whores, prostitutes and call girls.

WTF?

PENAL CODE TITLE 2. GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITYCHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
Sec. 9.42 A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property
  - Fine
(2)  when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary  - Hmmm. Ok but define reasonable.
B)  to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property;  and - And. And is important here.
3)  he reasonably believes that:(A)  the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means  - Can not be protected by other means. A man can't overpower a female without shooting her? Or take her to civil court. Or report a theft to the police.

This case is totally bananas.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2013, 06:06:05 AM »
Well MrJason, you have to keep in mind that since he was committing an illegal act by trying to force her into sex in the first place, he had no legal options for recovering that money.  And perhaps he couldn't effectively overpower her by any other means at the time to get it back.  Therefore his situation may well have fit the definition laid out.

Really, really stupid law.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2013, 01:50:29 PM »
I was there a year ago.  It was a mixed bag.  I couldn't walk 10 yards without a beggar hitting me up for money.

You were in the tourist area, primarily the Inner Harbor. The beggars know where the money is. For years there was this guy -- Lenny? -- who would roam the area east of the Inner Harbor (not quite into Little Italy) and flash open his trench coat with watches for people to buy. He seemed more like a street comic than a serious hot-watch salesman. John Waters is right when he says that Baltimore is full of people that just don't really fit in anywhere else. Of course, he may have been referring only to drag queens, big hair and Hons, but that's just his slice of life.

West Lexington, north of the tracks and west of MLK Boulevard is about 2 steps above a shit hole. A few streets through there have been revitalized and are decent. The rest ... oy! Yeah, I don't want my car to break down through there. I travel through that section of the city all too often.


And it was the usual baloney scam: "I am driving a bus for a church group that broke down a couple blocks away.  We need some money to repair the bus..." 

I seem to attract that anywhere I go, but it's never been a church bus. Always out of gas ...


In the inner harbor they have pedestrian bridges from the hotels.  Several homeless people used them to do number 2s in them.

Strange. I haven't used any of those hotel bridges in years and some of them have been closed off to non-guests for some time. Maybe they've been re-opened for the general public? I'm more likely to suspect that somebody has let their dogs take a shit up there, but who knows.

Lexington St market is a wonderful place.  I ate oysters there the size of my palm.  No joke.  and the crab cakes are for-flipping-real.  However, to get there you must run a gauntlet through one of the worst neighborhoods I have ever been through in my life. Cracked out zombies shuffle along the sidewalks.

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The crab cake mecca
Of Baltimore but beware
Crackheads everywhere

This place was awesome.  Great food choices for every taste and an interesting crowd.  You get the ultimate Baltimore experience:  crackheads and crab cakes!
Totally true.

I ate a shit-ton of crabs at Moe's.  I also drank a lot of beer.  It brought me as close to the divine as I can imagine.  There is another Moe's around the block, but it's a pretender.
Eat not there.

Baltimore is chock full of great food, especially seafood, as are most places in Maryland. After living here for 25+ years, and going other places (outside of Maryland) to try seafood, I can tell you that the ability to prepare seafood is a specialty here that is equaled nowhere else. Even our tiny shit-shacks on creaky piers in the Bay know how to make good seafood whereas in most other places there are only one or two fine restaurants that know how to make good seafood. Crabs and crabcakes are the specialty. The best time in Maryland is a warm summer day with steamed crabs and good beer (not NattyBo).

There are good things in Baltimore. There is also danger and shit.   I mean both literally.  Like everything, it is not monolithic.  I would go back for Moe's and to watch the Yankees beat the piss out of the Uh-Os. (I flipping love baseball.)  I have very good things to say about Camden Yards, though do not buy crab cakes at the park.

Camden Yards is a very nice place. I wouldn't buy any seafood at a ballpark. I would buy only what they know how to make best: hotdogs and pretzels.


It seemed to me Baltimore needed more blue collar jobs and less tourist bullshit.  You just cannot support a city that size with tourism at the waterfront.

There is a lot more to Baltimore besides the tourist trade. The Port of Baltimore does a lot of business. If you live East of the Mississippi River and you drive a car built in Japan, it came through Baltimore. There are giant lots of freshly baked cars near the ports that most people never see -- nobody really wants to go down there. Tons of other things come through the ports. The steel mill closed, McCormick Spice moved to the suburbs. The Social Security Administration and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMMS) have been headquartered just outside of Baltimore for 60+ years.

Baltimore is also home to a lot of medical research facilities despite the blue-collar history of the city. Johns Hopkins has 4 campuses and University of Maryland medical, dentistry and law schools are in Baltimore, as well. Government, education and charitable institutions offer lots of employment for the region. Colleges are everywhere. Surrounding BWI are tons of high-tech companies, warehouses and who knows what else.

The city itself is slowly morphing into a place to live, be entertained, get medical care and get educated.


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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2013, 01:53:26 PM »
4-year-old boy accidentally kills dad in Arizona

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Police say the boy somehow found a gun in the home's living room and accidentally fired it and a bullet hit his father, who was rushed to a hospital where he died.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/08/3440202/4-year-old-boy-accidentally-kills.html#storylink=cpy
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2013, 07:33:47 PM »
Well MrJason, you have to keep in mind that since he was committing an illegal act by trying to force her into sex in the first place, he had no legal options for recovering that money.  And perhaps he couldn't effectively overpower her by any other means at the time to get it back.  Therefore his situation may well have fit the definition laid out.

Really, really stupid law.

So, you can now shoot a drug dealer who refuses to give you drugs after you give him the money, and not go to jail for it? Open season, y'all.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2013, 09:25:36 PM »
4-year-old boy accidentally kills dad in Arizona

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Police say the boy somehow found a gun in the home's living room and accidentally fired it and a bullet hit his father, who was rushed to a hospital where he died.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/08/3440202/4-year-old-boy-accidentally-kills.html#storylink=cpy
So you survive the wars from hell and get killed by your 4 year old.  Pretty ironic.  FOX is already spinning this by saying the dad and his son showed up at a friend's house unannounced and the kid found the gun in the livingroom.  So the gun owner is off the hook because he did not know this kid was coming over.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2013, 08:50:27 AM »
This case Texas is totally bananas.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2013, 08:55:14 AM »
University of Maryland medical, dentistry and law schools are in Baltimore,

This was why I was there.  I had to do some trouble shooting at the med school.



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The rud pundit's editorial on some of the recent shootings reported here:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2013/06/all-you-need-to-know-about-irrational.html



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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2013, 04:47:43 AM »
Really, really stupid law.

Agreed. Any law that permits someone to take a life to avoid the loss of property (money or otherwise) is a disgrace.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2013, 07:51:22 AM »
Gun Fail 21
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/08/1213103/-GunFAIL-XXI
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This week's compilation includes: six concealed carry ninjas who accidentally shot themselves; four cops who shot themselves (including two local chiefs of police); one gun store owner (i.e., a civilian "gun expert"); one person who shot themselves supposedly teaching another person how to shoot safely; two people cleaning loaded guns (and one who claims he was cleaning it, but sounds like he really wasn't); four kids shot by other kids and one adult shot by a 4-year-old; two pre-schoolers who shot their own fingers off; three home invasion shootings, plus one accidental shooting of someone on an adjacent property and one shooting inside of a single house, but between floors of that house; two gun carriers who accidentally discharged their weapons while out shopping among the public they were making safer, and; 14 kids accidentally shot, aged 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 10, 12, 13, 13, 14, 16, 16, 17 and 17. Six of those kids were killed.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2013, 08:16:34 AM »
BAAAAHHAHAHAHAhahaha!

#7 - Kentucky State Police Post 3 Bowling Green says it received a call from the Barren County Correctional Center stating that Metcalfe County Deputy Sheriff Joshua Neal, 25 of Edmonton, was in the sally port of the jail and accidentally discharged his agency issued firearm. KSP says the bullet struck the right leg of Deputy Neal.
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/Metcalfe-Co-Deputy-Accidentally-Shoots-Himself-209786511.html

#9 - Police Chief Steven Marshall is on administrative duty after accidentally shooting himself in the hand Friday.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130603/NEWS07/130609796

#47 -  North Ogden Police Chief Kevin Warren is expected to make a full recovery after apparently accidentally shooting himself in the arm Thursday.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/06/06/updated-north-ogden-police-chief-involved-accidental-shooting

"gun experts" accidentally shooting themselves cracks me up.  They should resign and be forced to wear bells around their necks to identify them as people not allowed to handle guns.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2013, 08:26:10 AM »
BAAAAHHAHAHAHAhahaha!

#7 - Kentucky State Police Post 3 Bowling Green says it received a call from the Barren County Correctional Center stating that Metcalfe County Deputy Sheriff Joshua Neal, 25 of Edmonton, was in the sally port of the jail and accidentally discharged his agency issued firearm. KSP says the bullet struck the right leg of Deputy Neal.
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/Metcalfe-Co-Deputy-Accidentally-Shoots-Himself-209786511.html

#9 - Police Chief Steven Marshall is on administrative duty after accidentally shooting himself in the hand Friday.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130603/NEWS07/130609796

#47 -  North Ogden Police Chief Kevin Warren is expected to make a full recovery after apparently accidentally shooting himself in the arm Thursday.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/06/06/updated-north-ogden-police-chief-involved-accidental-shooting

"gun experts" accidentally shooting themselves cracks me up.  They should resign and be forced to wear bells around their necks to identify them as people not allowed to handle guns.



Seriously why are these people allowed to handle guns? If you drive a car and accidentally hurt someone with it you get banned from driving, the same should apply to accidents with other lethal weapons

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2013, 02:37:39 PM »
convicted felon writes OPEd thanking NRA:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/10/2130331/felon-in-maximum-security-prison-thanks-the-nra-for-making-it-easy-for-him-to-get-a-gun/

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As a lifelong career criminal, although I no longer enjoy the right to keep and bear arms, I'd like to take a moment to express my appreciation to the National Rifle Association for nonetheless protecting my ability to easily obtain them through its opposition to universal background checks.

Upon release in a few years from my current federal sentence on bank robbery and weapons charges, I fully anticipate being able to stop at a gun show on my way home to Connecticut -- where new laws have made it nearly impossible for a felon to readily purchase guns or ammunition -- in order to buy some with which to resume my criminal activities.

And so, a heartfelt thank you to the NRA and all those members of Congress voting with them. I, along with tens of thousands of other criminals, couldn't do what we do without you.

Gary W. Bornman,
The writer is an inmate at the federal "Supermax" prison in Florence, Colo.

Think progress links his registry in the federal prison database.  I checked snopes and found no hits.  May be too early. I did find an article about someone of the same name having been convicted in Connecticut.  Seems legit.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2013, 07:17:35 PM »
"gun experts" accidentally shooting themselves cracks me up.  They should resign and be forced to wear bells around their necks to identify them as people not allowed to handle guns.

Doctors are the worst patients.


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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2013, 07:19:02 PM »
BAAAAHHAHAHAHAhahaha!

#7 - Kentucky State Police Post 3 Bowling Green says it received a call from the Barren County Correctional Center stating that Metcalfe County Deputy Sheriff Joshua Neal, 25 of Edmonton, was in the sally port of the jail and accidentally discharged his agency issued firearm. KSP says the bullet struck the right leg of Deputy Neal.
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/Metcalfe-Co-Deputy-Accidentally-Shoots-Himself-209786511.html

#9 - Police Chief Steven Marshall is on administrative duty after accidentally shooting himself in the hand Friday.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130603/NEWS07/130609796

#47 -  North Ogden Police Chief Kevin Warren is expected to make a full recovery after apparently accidentally shooting himself in the arm Thursday.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/06/06/updated-north-ogden-police-chief-involved-accidental-shooting

"gun experts" accidentally shooting themselves cracks me up.  They should resign and be forced to wear bells around their necks to identify them as people not allowed to handle guns.
The sheriff in my community shot his deputy in the leg a few years back at a practice range.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2013, 05:20:24 AM »
Texas gun range offers target practice from a helicopter

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Customers pay $795 to take part in the firefight flight, which includes a safety training class, awards ceremony and lunch. Well, and unlike an actual firefight, no returning fire. The individual flights are relatively short, lasting about 15 minutes per person. Still, that’s enough time to fire off an estimated 500 rounds of .233 semiautomatic rifle ammunition.
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"It's not like we're hitting this every day," Claassen told the station. "So it's not noise pollution. So there is no noise. It's the world safest and quietest helicopter."

There is no noise? Is that because everyone is deaf after the first 100 rounds?

We all know that a helicopter is the safest form of flight in existence. What could possibly go wrong?

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« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2013, 07:00:44 AM »
Texas???   Maybe we should let them go off on their own.
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« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2013, 07:18:42 AM »
Nah.  In Texas schools now only 38% of the kids are white.  In 10 years the crazy white guys will be in the minority and a Hispanic Liberal will be governor.  It's only a matter of time. 
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« Reply #78 on: June 12, 2013, 07:41:38 AM »
Nah.  In Texas schools now only 38% of the kids are white.  In 10 years the crazy white guys will be in the minority and a Hispanic Liberal will be governor.  It's only a matter of time.
Are the white kids in private schools or home schooled or just not there anymore?
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2013, 10:02:26 AM »
last post on texas demographics:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/11/1215457/-Republicans-either-support-immigration-reform-or-they-kiss-Texas-goodbye

When texas goes blue, and it will be purple soon, the gop may not see the white house for 30 years.
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« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2013, 11:31:29 AM »
last post on texas demographics:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/11/1215457/-Republicans-either-support-immigration-reform-or-they-kiss-Texas-goodbye

When texas goes blue, and it will be purple soon, the gop may not see the white house for 30 years.

When that happens, I may get religion. Or not.
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2013, 11:37:48 AM »
Really, really stupid law.

Agreed. Any law that permits someone to take a life to avoid the loss of property (money or otherwise) is a disgrace.

I want to see a situation where a black mentally ill convicted felon shoots a white gun dealer for not selling him a gun. The "guns for all" people's heads will explode.  &)

Remember that an armed society is a polite society. Like Japan. They are so polite because they are all secretly packing under those business suits, kimonos and anime costumes. Concealed carry cosplay. :o
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2013, 02:12:06 PM »
^ Pat Buchanan warned us.
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Re: Gun Fails
« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2013, 02:58:06 PM »
Gah! I just lost a bit of writing a response to you as well! Arg..... >:(

I'll try again another day. Lo siento mucho.
Actually it doesn't. One could conceivably be all-powerful but not exceptionally intelligent.

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Yo, put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Quit ragging on my Lord.

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