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Offline Jag

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Rational thinking: the wheel bearing on my car needs to be replaced, I can hear it squeaking and I know that's the cause. It's possible that the wheel will literally seize up while driving. I'm in finals prep week, with three trips to and from school before the semester ends and I can give up the car for a few days so my boyfriend can fix it amongst several other equally pressing miscellaneous repairs underway at the moment. I have access to a different vehicle.

Rational decisions: drive the other vehicle, or take mine to backup mechanic and spend an afternoon at the bar next door to his shop studying.

Not me. Kept driving my car, remembering the problem as I pulled out of the driveway every time. I can't defend that choice, it was stupid and potentially dangerous, but I did it. Heck, it barely qualified as a choice - I just remembered, thought "no time, gotta go" and drove on.

Just an example, but one extreme enough to really demonstrate my point. How long, if ever, until newly developing rational thinking routinely translates into rational behavior?
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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 12:45:45 PM »
Just an example, but one extreme enough to really demonstrate my point. How long, if ever, until newly developing rational thinking routinely translates into rational behavior?

I'd have to say never, at least in each and every case. I doubt the most rational person on the planet demonstrates completely rational behavior 24/7/365. Our brains, while not always rational, are very good at rationalizing, from what I've observed.
Actually it doesn't. One could conceivably be all-powerful but not exceptionally intelligent.

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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 01:45:21 PM »
Lol, that's an important distinction!

I get frustrated when I find yet another example of completely stupid thinking on my part. Some days it seems that I'll never get ahead of my own screwy thought processes. I know completely rational behavior isn't even desirable, but it would be nice to feel like I'm gaining some ground  ;)
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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 01:48:47 PM »
jag -

it's a wheel... feel free to use circular logic  &)
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Offline Petey

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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 01:49:56 PM »
That's funny.  Here I was thinking the most irrational part of that story was the fact that you were considering going to a bar...and STUDYING!?!
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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 01:52:44 PM »
That's funny.  Here I was thinking the most irrational part of that story was the fact that you were considering going to a bar...and STUDYING!?!

I'd assumed that was meant as a joke anyway.

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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 01:54:42 PM »
And anatomy.  ;)
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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 02:04:36 PM »
Actually it wasn't, but I see why you would think so. It's just the only public building near my mechanic, and yeah, I don't think it's a good atmosphere in which to study anything other than the bottom of a beer bottle. That made it easy to use Dante's point and justify not dealing with my car - because I was stressing myself out over finals. A beer (or six) probably would have done me good!

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Re: How long until rational thinking becomes rational behavior?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 10:47:52 AM »
That's funny.  Here I was thinking the most irrational part of that story was the fact that you were considering going to a bar...and STUDYING!?!
So truth - I found that studying at a relatively quiet bar with a drink was one of the more effective studying strategies I found.  A quiet bar is also a fantastic place to have group meetings for things like capstone projects.
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