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Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« on: February 12, 2013, 01:05:03 PM »
You would have thought that Missouri would have learned from the fun people made of Kansas when they tried this.  The Missouri legislator is pushing the Missouri Standard Science Act or HB291. The bill would require all textbooks covering science to devote equal treatment to evolution and intelligent design. Teachers would be required to spend as much time on each.  If textbooks cannot be found that meet the standards they must get supplemental materials from a special committee set up to deal with this.  This would include science classes not only at elem and sec classes (K-12) but all colleges and universities in Missouri.  This from the state that made putting "God did it" on a test question must be counted as correct.

Republicans control both houses in Missouri.  The state has a Dem Gov. but there are enough republicans to make it veto proof.

Remember that if you ever get to hire a Missouri grad for a job position.

(info out of morning paper)
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 01:08:57 PM »
Out of idle curiosity, can a state be thrown out of the union?
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 01:20:46 PM »
Out of idle curiosity, can a state be thrown out of the union?

Article IV of our Constitution provides for admitting new states and for redrawing state boundaries, but as far as I know, there is no explicit provision for removing a state altogether.  I suppose someone wanting to "play dirty" could redraw Missouri's state lines so that it had only one square foot of territory, thus effectively ejecting a state from the union without actually doing so.  Just speculating, though.

It's an interesting question.  The last time it came up was during our Civil War, when a number of states in the South declared that it was their right to secede whenever they saw fit, and did so; the North disagreed and never formally recognized any state's secession.  The matter was settled only de facto when the North won the war.
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 01:31:48 PM »
Thanks for that.

I have long had an idea that, as we did with our criminals and Australia, there should be somewhere to ship off the lunatic fringe where they could, to their hearts content, be irrational. Think of it  - an independent theocratic state bounded by sanity - it would seem ideal.
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Seriously though... What would happen if the Great Green Arkleseizure didn't fram up the rammastam before the hermite curve achieved maximum nurdfurdle velocity? Now THAT would be something. AmIrite?

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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 02:36:33 PM »
Thanks for that.

I have long had an idea that, as we did with our criminals and Australia, there should be somewhere to ship off the lunatic fringe where they could, to their hearts content, be irrational. Think of it  - an independent theocratic state bounded by sanity - it would seem ideal.

Graybeard, I would be so for that. Like I said in another thread with a similar topic, I'd gladly give up my own home county and city in return for all the biblical literalists, the Teabaggers, the Faux News drones and their ilk moving there and never, ever leaving. Relocating would be nothing next to never having to deal with them again.
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 02:50:43 PM »
They seem to really like Texas.  How about that?

Of course, we would need to protect the boarder.
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 03:45:13 PM »
Thanks for that.

I have long had an idea that, as we did with our criminals and Australia, there should be somewhere to ship off the lunatic fringe where they could, to their hearts content, be irrational. Think of it  - an independent theocratic state bounded by sanity - it would seem ideal.

Graybeard, I would be so for that. Like I said in another thread with a similar topic, I'd gladly give up my own home county and city in return for all the biblical literalists, the Teabaggers, the Faux News drones and their ilk moving there and never, ever leaving. Relocating would be nothing next to never having to deal with them again.

I agree.  We will happily take the gays, the environmentalists, racial and ethnic diversity, socialized medicine and feminism off their hands. If they will take Pat Robertson, Alan Keyes, Newt Gingrich, the NRA, the "English Only" gang and the fetus lobby off our hands.

We will keep on using the Theory of Evolution to cure disease, solve crimes and improve crop yields.  They can use Intelligent Design and Christian prayer to cure disease, solve crimes and improve crop yields. We get science and technology. They can have god and Wal-Mart.[1]

Finish the Civil War; they can keep the south. Give safe passage to anyone who wants to leave, and then let them have their White Christian Religo-rama. It will be a hot, humid North Korea, only full of fat narrow-minded inbred people praying to be saved from tornadoes, hurricanes and crime.

We will have our colorful Eco-topia with good medical care, high education levels, rational economic policies, freedom of religion, low crime, and a healthy environment. We get Bill Gates and Harvard. They get Ted Nugent and Branson. Sounds like a wonderful trade to me.

After ten years, which group will be trying to tunnel under the border fence?
 1. And no fair importing researchers and doctors from Hindu India and atheist China when the prayer and ID turn out not to work very well on traumatic brain injury and diabetes.
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 05:48:12 PM »
Finish the Civil War; they can keep the south. Give safe passage to anyone who wants to leave, and then let them have their White Christian Religo-rama. It will be a hot, humid North Korea, only full of fat narrow-minded inbred people praying to be saved from tornadoes, hurricanes and crime.
Does the US have any nukes located in the South?  Just wondering since North Korea detonated a nuke recently.  I don't know if I'd want our lunatic southern neighbors armed with nuclear warheads.
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 06:21:50 PM »
True.  They are hell bent on bringing about the "end times".

Do you think they would fall for some fake nukes?
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 06:39:01 PM »
They get Ted Nugent and Branson.

That reminds me, remember what Ted said in April 2012:

http://countingdownto.com/countdown/176293
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 07:41:01 PM »
They seem to really like Texas.  How about that?

Of course, we would need to protect the boarder.
Sad thing is,I know some good people in Texas that would be horrified by this idea
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 10:50:32 PM »
Nick,

This must be the reason my brother and his wife (both atheists) are moving back to Florida. It seems the "crazy" left the South (partially) and has now travelled to the mid-west.

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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 12:29:07 AM »
Interesting topic, considering that it is Charles Darwin's birthday today.

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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 08:53:39 AM »
IN the response section of the paper today someone wrote in that Darwin made all this stuff up and the bible was written by eyewitnesses.  I wonder who was the eye witness writing things down when Eve ate that apple?

There is also now a bill being proposed to take Missouri off daylight savings time.  You see we want to control time also.
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 09:06:31 AM »
Does the US have any nukes located in the South?

Yes, some.  At least, that's believed to be the case -- such information is, of course, classified -- but educated guesses do put some nukes in the South.

http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2009/11/locations.php
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 11:14:40 AM »
IN the response section of the paper today someone wrote in that Darwin made all this stuff up and the bible was written by eyewitnesses.  I wonder who was the eye witness writing things down when Eve ate that apple?

There is also now a bill being proposed to take Missouri off daylight savings time.  You see we want to control time also.
MIND BLOWN.......but it is all written in hearsay is it not?
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Re: Sad Sad Sad Missouri
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 05:18:50 PM »
Who was the eyewitness to Jesus struggling with temptation in the desert? To Abraham banging Hagar? To Cain killing Abel?

Did CNN have correspondents with live feed back then?

"Now we can hear Jesus crying out and cursing Satan. Satan is taunting Jesus with a bikini barista holding a latte. Wait, Jesus has thrown the latte at Satan. It's all over, ladies and gentlemen! Jesus, the son of god, has defeated temptation and is on his way back to the disciples' compound. Back to you, Jeff." :D
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.