kcrady
If that were true, which it isn't, it wouldn't matter. Even if we got "all our ideas from Roman Catholics," we, being freethinkers, can discard an idea when it no longer matches our best understanding of reality, derived by testing it against reality.
>>>And it just so happens that you coincidentally believe the principles that the Jesuit order created, the exact order created to destroy Bible-Believing Countries.
The word "atom" ought to be a clue. "Atomism" comes to us through Greek and Roman philosophy, e.g. Democritus and Lucretius. Not Catholic.
I did not say that the Jesuits created materialism. I said that they popularized it. They wanted to create a new philosophy in the west to replace Protestantism and Descartes is considered now the Father of Modern Secular Philosophy. It was a philosophy created to have no reference to God.
So Communism was a big Catholic conspiracy? Hahahahahahahaha! And I bet the Pope is an alien--oh, hang on. He does have quite the resemblance to Emperor Palpatine.
I have the documented proof:
The New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia admits in its article “Reductions of Paraguay”,
“(1) Conditions of Property
The economic basis was a sort of communism"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12688b.htmHowever, I'm surprised you don't know that the Catholics got their communism from.... *drumroll* ...Jesus! See the fifth chapter of Acts, where it states quite plainly that the early Christians held all things in common.
Even if that passage pertained to the state, which it doesn't, Jesus was killed many chapters earlier so he didn't create it.
Also: Communism is not an "atheist idea." It's an economic system that has nothing to do with theism or atheism. The Soviet Communists were atheist, but Liberation Theology is Christian Communism.
Yes it does. Marx got his ideas of the dialectic from Pre-Socractic Monad Theology via Heraclitus. Communism operates off of universal equality which is denied by Christian theology which sees a monarchy in the Father's Hypostasis.
So the Catholics were behind both Communism and Capitalism? Those wascally bastards! They're probably behind all world religions and philosophies and atheism and your particular little IdiosynChristianity, and supported the North and the South in the Civil War.
Not all religions, but the reviving of the old paganism was completed by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.Mormonism was definitely created by the Jesuits and I am still working on my theory that the Papacy created Islam. And yes, the Vatican and the Jesuits played both sides of the civil war as they have most western wars in the last couple centuries.
Just so they'll end up on top no matter what, right? Never mind that they're spending their resources to fight their own resources, because...oh never mind. It's A Conspiracy! That explains everything, and just ignore that your theory contradicts itself.
No it does not. Starting wars between two countries that house your political enemies is a great plan.
Funny, if you go back to the original Illuminati/Mason paranoia, John Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy, you'll find them being accused of seeking to overthrow the French Monarchy, and with it the Catholic Church in France.
That is right because the Vatican had just suppressed them in 1773, though there were previous informal suppressions. For this Clement was given the poison cup of the order. Whenever there is a good Pope he is assassinated.
But the Catholics only conspired against themselves because they're just so friggin' clever. Right?
No no. There are warring factions within the Catholic Church. Just read about the Gallicans and the Jansenists. The high level guys are flaming Luciferians (Malachi Martin exposed much of this) who believe nothing of the Catholic religion and could care less about the teachings of Christianity. They use the Roman Religion as a political hustle. Whenever a legitimate Christian comes to power they kill him.
The famous Freemason Erasmus Darwin was the primary influence on his grandson’s Darwinism and the transitional fossil hoaxes were created by the famous
Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin and men associated with him.
The great "influence" that's responsible for the success of Darwinian evolutionary theory is: the geologic column, the fossil record
Your own people admit that Teilhard's fossils were hoaxes. The Piltdown Man was an admitted Hoax. Who was Dawson's accomplice? That's right, Teilhard de Chardin.
Based on data discovered by Edwin Hubble. With all sorts of other discoveries and developments of the theory added by...well, pretty much every physicist you could name and lots you can't. How many of 'em are Jesuits?
This is a round about way of admitting I'm right. So you admit it? Ok let us move on.
It wasn't "invented." It was updated because accumulation of small errors caused the Julian Calendar to vary too far from astronomical measurements, such as the solstices. What about the months and the days of the week? June (Juno, Roman goddess), August (Augustus, a title of Roman Emperors), Monday (the Moon) Wednesday (Wotan's Day, for Wotan/Odin, Norse god), Thursday (Thor's Day--Norse god), Friday (Freya's day--Norse Goddess), Saturday (Saturn's Day, Roman god), Sunday (the Sun). Did the Catholics go back in time and invent Roman and Norse Paganism too?
I prefer the Hebrew Lunar calendar. This month was adjusted to keep it seasonally correct. I am no expert on this issue. Nicklas Arthur has studied it quite a bit.
So, by being involved with international organizations we're upholding Divine Right (of Kings? But we don't have a King!), yet by upholding Separation of Church and State we're rejecting Divine Right, and when we give the UN the finger and attack a country (e.g. Iraq) unilaterally, we're...what, splitting the difference?
No, no no. I never said anything about divine right of kings. If Romanism hates any doctrine it is the divine right of Kings. That doctrine steps on the foot of the Papacy's Civil Authority. You need to study ultramontanism.
The United Nations was designed by Cecil Rhodes and he admitted he got the idea from the Jesuits.
In The Last Will and Testament of Cecil John Rhodes, edited by W.T. Stead (1902) we read on page 56, when Stead says,
“Mr. Rhodes was more than the founder of a dynasty. He aspired to be the creator of one of those vast semi-religious, quasi-political associations which, like the Society of Jesus, [Jesuits-DS] have played so large a part in the history of the world. To be more strictly accurate, he wished to found an Order as the instrument of the will of the Dynasty, and while he lived he dreamed of being both its Caesar and its Loyola [Jesuit founder-DS] .
Again Stead says on pages 62-63 and this is absolutely astonishing,
“All these wills were framed under the influence of the idea which dominated Mr. Rhodes's imagination. He aimed at the foundation of a Society composed of men of strong convictions and of great wealth, which would do for the unity of the English-speaking race what the Society of Jesus did for the Catholic Church immediately after the Reformation.
The English-speaking race stood to Mr. Rhodes for all that the Catholic Church stood to Ignatius Loyola. Mr. Rhodes saw in the English-speaking race the greatest instrument yet evolved for the progress and elevation of mankind shattered by internal dissensions and reft in twain by the declaration of American Independence, just as the unity of the Church was destroyed by the Protestant Reformation. [Thus the Jesuits would mount Rhodes’ NWO which they inspired in him to begin with to re-assimilate the Holy Roman Empire-DS] Unlike Loyola, who saw that between Protestants and Catholics no union was possible, and who therefore devoted all his energies to enable the Catholics to extirpate their adversaries, Mr. Rhodes believed that it was possible to secure the reunion of the race. Loyola was an out-and-out Romanist. He took sides unhesitatingly with the Pope against the Reformers. The attitude of Mr. Rhodes was altogether different [But the solution was the same-DS]. He was devoted to the old flag, but in his ideas he was American, and in his later years he expressed to me his unhesitating readiness to accept the reunion of the race under the Stars and Stripes if it could not be obtained in any other way.”
Stead says again on pages 64-66,
“Mr. Rhodes's political ideas were thus written out by him in one of the very few long letters which he ever wrote to anyone, just before his departure from Kimberley to Mashonaland in the autumn of 1891. The communication takes the shape of a resume of a long conversation which I had had with him just before he left London for the Cape. Despite a passage which suggests that I should sub-edit it and dress up his ideas, I think the public will prefer to have these rough, hurried, and sometimes ungrammatical notes exactly as Mr. Rhodes scrawled them off rather than to have them supplied with " literary clothing " by anyone else :
[Rhodes’ words-DS] Please remember the key of my idea discussed with you is a Society, copied from the Jesuits as to organisation, the practical solution a differential rate and a copy of the United States Constitution, for that is Home Rule or Federation,
and an organisation to work this out, working in the House of Commons for decentralisation, remembering that an Assembly that is responsible for a fifth of the world has no time to discuss the questions raised by Dr. Tanner or the important matter of Mr. O'Brien's breeches, and that the labour question is an important matter, but that deeper than the labour question is the question of the market for the products of labour, and that, as the local consumption (production) of England can only support about six millions, the balance depends on the trade of the world.
That the world with America in the forefront is devising tariffs to boycott your manufactures, and that this is the supreme question, for I believe that England with fair play should manufacture for the world, and, being a Free Trader, I believe until the world comes to its senses you should declare war I mean a commercial war with those who are trying to boycott your manufactures that is my programme. You might finish the war by union with America and universal peace, I mean after one hundred years, and a secret society organised like Loyola's, supported by the accumulated wealth of those whose aspiration is a desire to do something, and a hideous annoyance created by the difficult question daily placed before their minds as to which of their incompetent relations they should leave their wealth to. You would furnish them with the solution, greatly relieving their minds and turning their ill-gotten or inherited gains to some advantage.”
The United Nations is run more than not by a bunch of Naive wanna be do gooders, but they have failed to see that they are simply setting the stage and the apparatus that will be used by the coming Pope who will incite the next great inquisition.
And yet, if we required the Bible in public schools, that would be part of the Catholic Conspiracy too, because it's the Catholics who decided what books went into "the Bible" in the first place!
Wrong. The scriptures were recognized and used comprehensively in the Pre-Nicene and Nicene period and later in the fourth century fully canonized. The Roman Bishop is not recognized as rector of the Church until the mid 5th century edict of Theodosius II and of Valentinian III.
Sorry Oli, you just can't get away from them. I mean, look at your own friggin' avatar!
That is a Greek Orthodox Father and if you do not know about the seething hatred these people have for the Papacy you might be surprised to find out that the Protestant Reformation really did save the world from the dark ages.
