I am wondering if you have really done exstensive research on Bible or have you allowed the institutions that humans have created to influence your thinking.
And then wait and see what the next statement is.....
Have you ever read publications by Watchtower Society.
You are going to allow this institution that humans have created to influence your thinking? Hypocrisy and special pleading in the second sentence. This might be a new record folks.
Challenge them if you like.
I challenged some sad sad woman who was a JW and came to my door. It was a massacre. She said she would return to continue the discussion. She never has.
Did you know that the Bible was not written for religion, denomination, or churches.
Oh really? Then what was it written for, oh master of all knowledge of the universe?
Did you also know that none of those relgions are mention in the bible neither denomination or churches
Yes, Christians often overlook that Jesus was a (gasp!) Jew. It's not my fault they are idiots.
I believe in a Supreme Being and it is not based on any of the above things that i mention.
Nope, you most likely have your own made up hodgepodge of woo.
I believe in creation and evolution and i am not confused.
I beg to differ. I think you are quite confused.
Because i have and understanding of them.
Somehow I doubt you have a good understanding of evolution. Not to generalize, but it is kind of a trademark trait of a theist.
I consider myself spiritual.
I really hate this phrase. What the hell does that even mean? Lot's of people say this, and it always seems to mean something different, ill defined in all cases, based on no evidence, and it is indistinguishable from religion.
I also know that mathematics and logic will prove there is a God
How do you KNOW this if it hasn't happened yet inspite of thousands of years of mathematics and logic? Why is it that mathematics and logic has consistently provided better explanations for events than "God did it"?
Have you studied mathematics throughly ?
No, have you? Are you the mathematical equivalent of Einstein or Newton? No? Then don't lecture us about mathematics.
Do you really understand logic ?
Well I consider it likely that I have taken more college level philosophy courses than you, so while not a master of logic per se, I likely have more mastery than you.
Do you really comprhend science or do you have an emotional agenda to teach something you can not disprove logically.
Oh come on, this is just sad, and is precisely what theists such as yourself do. YOU have an emotional agenda to teach something that YOU can't PROVE logically. We don't HAVE to disprove your hypothesis, you have to demonstrate its validity. So far you are failing miserably. Furthermore, if overwhelming evidence for the existence of God were to be found (lets say at least as much evidence for the existence of God as there is for evolution, good luck with that), I would have to admit in that case that God was real. This doesn't mean I would worship him though. It's not an emotional agenda at all, in fact the whole point of science is to remove emotional agendas and preconceived notions from our investigation of the universe.
When you are done trying to discredit
The Supreme Being of the universe, you still have to acknowledge that you are limited in comprehension of things.
And so are you! But yet you claim to KNOW that logic and math will vindicate your belief in God! You really have no business making such a claim.
and the universe is so awesome.
And the only reason we know about the awesomeness of the universe is......science! We had to build the Hubble Telescope because the Holy Books are rather short on sweet images of the deep cosmos.
Behind every design is a designer is it not.
The argument from design is so sad its not even worth getting into.
Have you honestly took a good look at this universe and not see the intelligence behind everything.
and come to the conclusion that, their is no Supreme Being.
Where is the intelligence in the appendix that can randomly explode and kill us? Where is the intelligence in arthrogryposis multiplex congenita? Where is the intelligence in Michelle Bachmann? Where is the intelligence in allowing 99%+ of all species that have ever existed to go extinct? Where is the intelligence in an asteroid crashing into earth 65 million years ago, wiping out as much as 60% of all life on the planet at the time? The amazing thing about the universe is that it is such a grand thing, that the laws of physics never do break, that everything operates smoothly, WITHOUT any outside assistance or designer needed. Napoleon reportedly asked Laplace why his work on astronomy did not include God, to which Laplace replied that he had no need of that hypothesis. Whether such a conversation actually took place or not, there is still no need to a God hypothesis to explain anything. This is the hypothesis of those who just give up on exploration and advancement. It's not even an explanation because it doesn't further our understanding of a phenomena at all. If hurricanes and floods and blizzards and droughts and dust storms and all of these sorts of natural phenomena had never been studied, and people just accept God did it as an "explanation", then we wouldn't be able to predict what areas will be hit by hurricanes and floods, wouldn't be able to evacuate people ahead of time, wouldn't be able to build structures to protect from floods, we would still be just as ignorant of these events as the morons present in holy books.
Do you not know that there is invisible life also.
How could you possibly know such a thing?
Can you see everything.
Well, I can't see MT. Everest from here, so no, but what does this really matter?
The religions,denominations, churches, and other organization are not an excuse for you to discredit the Supreme Being
Yes, yes they are.
For they do not teach the truth
Finally we agree on something!
Do you know the truth ?
Whatever the truth is, it's not your sorry excuse for it.
Philosophy is real
Yes, and did not exist until man made it.