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Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« on: January 04, 2013, 09:40:40 PM »
As I was facebooking and watching TV last sunday a friend of mine that was indoctrinated in the same cult as I, and whos father is a deacon there ambushed me over FB message...

I think he displayed ALL the symptoms... literally all of them.


Sunday

4:27pm
Xtian:
in 2013 you will believe again
watch

4:28pm
Me:
Nah, Ive done too much research. How do you reconcile your morality with the apparent evilness of YHWH in the bible?

4:29pm
Xtian:
least you got the YHWH
i wont debate tho
1 because it wont convince you
2
im not the one that does the convincing
and 3
there is some evil at work here that prevents you from hearing
but i will say this

4:29pm
Me:
Its not debates, Its that I read it and I dont need to make excuses for it.

4:29pm
Xtian:
trying to wrap your head around God is a loosing battle for any human
but whether you agree with God's actions or lack thereof or not
its impossible to deny his existence
just look around
nature reeks of it
even in school you learn every design has a designer

4:30pm
Me:
No it doesnt.
Youre ignoring science

4:31pm
Xtian:
ive known far great athesists than you who have prolly down more researchthan you come around
i think you have - ive got a degree in science
science is not opposed to God

4:31pm
Me:
Science is opposed to things proclaimed in the bible though

4:31pm
Xtian:
in fact science is what it is today because of Christians in the field (centuries ago) Christianity allowed for science to flourish

4:32pm
Me:
if you get your god from the bible it is false

4:32pm
Xtian:
science was never meant to be en end all be all thats why its called science - means tentative
naturalistic evolution takes much faith to believe...i know atheists who dont believe in it..its so flawed..nature, science, all points to a creator
you just dont like Him

4:33pm
Me:
science explains the world around you. The bible tells you to sprinkle bird blood to kill mold.
science gave you lysol

4:33pm
Xtian:
you forget im not one of these "my pastor said Christians" i do research
its my thing
the research is convincing but thats not what convinced me
you will know what I am talking about
next year
wait for it

4:34pm
Me:
Im open for anything you got. As long as it doesnt require me to turn off my brain

4:34pm
Xtian:
until then keep believe the big bang theory until you get stuck at wondering where the ball came from...or things can create themselves...lol its funny when you say it like that out loud

4:34pm
Me:
But understand faith means there is no evidence

4:34pm
Xtian:
nah man never do that
i actually like that you question and research everything
but there is a difference between not understanding, corruption in the church, and backing anything that disagrees with Christianity
faith doesnt mean that
blind faith is the silliest thing i ever heard
my faith is informed and based on truth and fact

4:36pm
Me:
I actually hit you when I was doing some of my research cuz I felt you were one I could talk to bout stuff and not worry about all that extra judgemental stuff

4:36pm
Xtian:
logic
did i not respond back?

4:36pm
Me:
You were goin through stuff and I prolly got busy

4:37pm
Xtian:
the Bible is also progressive revelation - thing you are getting hung up in some OT stuff...but I admit, I dont understand it all, I wont act like I do
but I am still convinced its not the research that has you denying Christianity
its another issue
truthfully it is with all atheists
esp those who parents were faith based

4:38pm
Me:
the reason you dont understand is probably because its not fitting into what we are supposed to believe about it and Christianity.

4:38pm
Xtian:
the same gaps you find in the bible I can find in science - science is always changing always being informed - we have yet to even understand the human body let alone the eye..then you want to talk how the world came about..please
nothing in there is more convincing than the Bible...its all about control beliefs

4:39pm
Me:
What I did was stop makin excuses for those passages and accepted what they said. From there I asked why someone would write such evilness and the answer is clear

4:39pm
Xtian:
im not the typical Christian at all
i actually dont even believe Christ died for everyone
I dont really believe in free will as most ppl do
im different
i also believe in the limitations of my own mind

4:40pm
Me:
the bible doesnt support free will. Or it suggests that god will take it away at his whim

4:40pm
Xtian:
if i could understand God thats means I am God
GOd created man in his own image and man, being the gentlemen he is, returned the favor

4:41pm
Me:
If you cant understand then it eliminates you from having an opinion

4:42pm
Xtian:
Christianity, mainstream, is as corrupt as it gets, I know this. Doesn't mean Jesus didnt come in the flesh, die, then rise again. Was seen by 500 witnesses...and why would 12 dudes (disciples) die for something they knew was a lie - no one does that
cant understand fully

4:42pm
Me:
People die for ALL religions everyday

4:42pm
Xtian:
not everything can be explained - science teaches us that

4:42pm
Me:
doesnt make them true

4:42pm
Xtian:
not for ones they think is a lie

4:42pm
Me:
Exactly

4:42pm
Xtian:
so the disciples just thought they saw someone rise from the dead?

4:43pm
Me:
No. Research what the gospels really say.
One hardly mentions jesus at all.

4:43pm
Xtian:
there is more literary proof for the bible than for any other piece of lieterature every
and its by a bunch
textual criticism is a science - most ppl who do it arent chrstian

4:43pm
Me:
one of them thought the resurrected Jesus was John the Baptist

4:43pm
Xtian:
and you will come away seeing that some verses were added later by scribes
but man...doing that research and seeing how many different manuscript agree from different time periods tracing back to the 2nd century is crazy
like it fabricated, it was fabricated in the 1st century

4:45pm
Me:
look up Bart Erhmn

4:45pm
Xtian:
2 of the gospel were not even written by disciples - they just heard it from them
i know all this

4:45pm
Me:
biblical scholar. For the problems with how the book was compiled

4:46pm
Xtian:
doesnt disprove a thing

4:46pm
Me:
it proves its a flimsy book
the bible isnt even meant to be together

4:46pm
Xtian:
no
still has more literary proof than any other book

4:46pm
Me:
its a collection of books a bunch of guys VOTED on

4:46pm
Xtian:
so if thats flimsy every other book ever is flimsier
ah the canon
yes it is

4:47pm
Me:
No, other books have primary sources and we know who the writers are

4:47pm
Xtian:
someone I still fail to see how science wins
faith is involved either way

4:47pm
Me:
No, your computer youre typing on is due to science
it works.

4:47pm
Xtian:
i know bart
i also know he is a good debater but look up his debatesd with daniel wallace
dan will disprove him on every pt
and dan is not even a debater, he is a premier textual critic and greek scholar

4:48pm
Me:
Not a fan of his debating, but I honor his biblical studies

4:48pm
Xtian:
bart issue isnt with evidence either - its emotional like yours
hes smart but misguided and mis represents some things

4:48pm
Me:
Mine is due to facts.
Who wrote Genesis?
matter of fact the 1st 5 books?

4:49pm
Xtian:
they say Moses
not knowing an answer to a question does not presume its falsehood
thats a logical fallacy to assume it does
we will never even know who wrote hebrews

4:50pm
Me:
No. You tried to state that the bible is on par with books that we have sources and know the authors of

4:50pm
Xtian:
you know the greatest scientists are christians right?
historically
no serious

4:50pm
Me:
No.

4:51pm
Xtian:
every book you name has less "proof" then the bible
the next closer is the illiad
~closest

4:51pm
Me:
another book of mythology

4:51pm
Xtian:
if you believe homer wrote that, then the bible is beyoind true

4:51pm
Me:
I dont take the Oddeyssy or Illiad as truth
thus it doesnt matter who wrote it

4:52pm
Xtian:
there is also another issue that you must know too
literary interpreation
hermenuetics
certain things are made to intrerpret certain ways
its not fair to read something from the 2nd century as it was written today
culture matters
context matters
, etc....
surrounding content matters
type of literature matters
thats an science within itseld
itself

4:53pm
Me:
Think about this though B. If this collection of books was meant to be some sort of instructions for you and I and the world forever then an alll knowing god woulve seen the problems
Why would he make it in languages that are rare or no longer exist?

4:54pm
Xtian:
i know think its instructions

4:54pm
Me:
Why wouldnt he protect the original manuscripts?

4:54pm
Xtian:
i think he is revealing himself

4:54pm
Me:
Why would he give them to a largely illiterate population?

4:54pm
Xtian:
they existed at the time they were written
thast why he gave us minds

4:54pm
Me:
and they sdvocated slavery, murder, rape, theivery, etc

4:55pm
Xtian:
why do people lose hair on top of their heads and grow it everywhere else

4:55pm
Me:
advocated

4:55pm
Xtian:
science doesnt even know
who is they?
progressive revelation
slavery back then was not the slavery our ppl endured
our slavery was worse
even still, the revelation is progressive

4:55pm
Me:
Then why did god help them out of Egypt?

4:55pm
Xtian:
change doesnt happen all at once
oh it was bad

4:56pm
Me:
it doesnt fit

4:56pm
Xtian:
im not saying it wasnt
God put them in Egypt to begin with
God punishes Israel, then He restores them

4:56pm
Me:
the evidence from the sites shows that it wasnt that bad. Although I qustion it.

4:56pm
Xtian:
dude every single thing in the OT points to the NT and points an arrow to Christ

4:57pm
Me:
only if you want to ignore all the evidence against it

4:57pm
Xtian:
its beautiful once you get the picture
still, i dont know everything - i havent done research in a while
but why did God allow Newtown to happen
even connecticut

4:57pm
Me:
Youre not talking to someone that hasnt been there to learn the same stuff.

4:57pm
Xtian:
what do you think God should have done?
remove evil

4:57pm
Me:
Nothing. He doesnt exist.

4:57pm
Xtian:
how far do you go
mass murder, stealing lies, then out minds

4:58pm
Me:
But the book is full of stories with him intervening

4:58pm
Xtian:
if you rid evil you rid humanity cuz we are evil
sin is our fault, not Gods

4:58pm
Me:
Then we were made that way.
Who made us?

4:58pm
Xtian:
God is sovereign
He intervenes with a purpose and a reason
sometimes He doesnt for a reason

4:59pm
Me:
You just got done telling me you dont understand him, now you do?

4:59pm
Xtian:
He still doesnt get the blame

4:59pm
Me:
See youre making excuses for the book

4:59pm
Xtian:
He saves us, we all deserve hell
who am i to say its not fair that all dont go to heaven
if it was fair, we'd all be in hell

4:59pm
Me:
No, you dont. I dont. My daughter and nieces dont.

4:59pm
Xtian:
so the fact he says some of us
is better than none of us
nah i dont fully understand

5:00pm
Me:
Save us from what?

5:00pm
Xtian:
i never will until that day
im limited
i have a human mind
how can i comprehend God?
how can creation question the creator?

5:00pm
Me:
You are acting as if you do

5:00pm
Xtian:
I know and believe some things
not all
we reading the same book
i just believe it
i cant pick what I dont like and say god wouldnt do that
im not god

5:01pm
Me:
belief is not knowledge

5:01pm
Xtian:
God doesnt dislike things cuz I dont
i know i said know and believe
i know what the bible says and choose to beleive it

5:01pm
Me:
god was what was used when people didnt have answers

5:01pm
Xtian:
u know what it says and choose not to
lol
we still dont have the answers

5:02pm
Me:
it was a very bad answer for lifes questions, but the best middle eastern sheep herders could do

5:02pm
Xtian:
so i guess we better keep using Him
when u get the answers, let me know
but a Godless universe is not science

5:02pm
Me:
I have them

5:02pm
Xtian:
evolution doesnt even meet the criteria of science
so if you exposuing science, let me know wht you believe

5:02pm
Me:
Everything works w/o god. God adds nothing.

5:03pm
Xtian:
cuz even the best scientist will tell you macro evolution is not science
it cant be, its not falsifiable, or prove-able
it will always be a theory
always

5:03pm
Me:
Evolution is proven even Christians dont deny it. Pat Robertson even believes it LOL

5:03pm
Xtian:
evolution is proven
you didnt do your research

5:03pm
Me:
Yes.

5:03pm
Xtian:
some Christians are foolish enough to believe evolution...they are silly
they do it just to sound good

5:04pm
Me:
Dinosaurs walking with humans is christian

5:04pm
Xtian:
have u dont research on evolution really?
and u dont see the wholes?

5:04pm
Me:
or satan put the bones there to trick you
6000 year old earth is christian

5:04pm
Xtian:
ther best evolutions - cat who won the nobel prize in 1971 says its false - and he did mad work on it
heck even darwin denounced it

5:04pm
Me:
unicorns and witches is christian

5:05pm
Xtian:
not all christians believe in a young earch
~earth

5:05pm
Me:
stoning people for working on the sabath is christian

5:05pm
Xtian:
so you believe the world created itself

5:05pm
Me:
stoning unruly children is christian

5:05pm
Xtian:
im still confused at where the original matter came from
can something dead come alive on its own

5:05pm
Me:
rape victims marrying the rapist is christian

5:05pm
Xtian:
science or I have never seen that
no thats corruption

5:06pm
Me:
Thats the bible

5:06pm
Xtian:
you side with anything against Christianity

5:06pm
Me:
you can believe thats good if you want

5:06pm
Xtian:
maybe OT - for the ppl in those times, im actually interested in you researching evolution
i mean really
i want to know what you find
the same level you are with the bible

5:06pm
Me:
Its already proven

5:06pm
Xtian:
scrutinize it
lol
macro-evolution is proven
not one credible scientist says that

5:07pm
Me:
only creationists disagree
but they believe humans walked wth dinosaurs

5:08pm
Xtian:
bro seriously
there are some great scientist who disagree with evolution
who are not Christian
u dont believe IN God
I dont believe in breadsticks
we all dont believe in something
nor do i believe in turkey bacon or boneless wings
they dont exist

5:09pm
Me:
Except theyre in my refrigerator. *texted photo of turkey bacon*
show god

5:11pm
Xtian:
look around you
look outside
go to the mountains i have been

5:11pm
Me:
thats evidence that stuff exists. nothing more

5:11pm
Xtian:
cats who dont even bleive in God after seeing them told me they know there is a God
symmetry

5:11pm
Xtian:
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

5:11pm
Xtian:
just happened by chance?
really?

5:13pm
Me:
Thats a backwards argument
thats like saying theres microwaves because we have TV dinners
The earth doesnt even remain the same distance from the sun. You got bad science there

5:15pm
Xtian:
lol

5:15pm
Me:
The entire surface isnt heated and cooled like you say. Think about Antarctica
and other uninhabitable parts of the earth

5:16pm
Xtian:
the earth revolves around the sun the same way

5:16pm
Me:
then theres the solar system

5:16pm
Xtian:
that oval shape
if it was any different it wouldnt work
for life
science tells us that
i mean that is paraphrased
the pt is, did that happen by itself

5:17pm
Me:
Oval means it doesnt stay the same distance from the sun, meaning what you said about being further or closer is nonsense

5:17pm
Xtian:
one planet has life?
really?
noo
closest than the closest part of the oval and farthest from the farther
its actually circular tho

5:17pm
Me:
no its not. You got bad science.
its eliptical

5:18pm
Xtian:
arguing the fine details doesnt disprove the fact that things like that dont happen by themselves
lol
ok
its circular when i made it for science class in the 5th grade

5:19pm
Me:
Theres already scientific models of how it works. They use those models for space travel. Again that works. While the bible talks about the earth being on a foundation and stars falling to the earth. And making the sun after day and night
mythology.

5:19pm
Xtian:
lol
no it was written by ppl who believed that
remember when it was written

5:19pm
Me:
Not just christianity though. Every religion dreamed up.

5:19pm
Xtian:
the sun rises and falls
u dont use the word sunrise?

5:20pm
Xtian:
“…I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of true science….It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaw(s) & holes as sound parts.” Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 1991) pp. 456, 475.

5:20pm
Xtian:
The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory." - Charles Darwin 1902 edition.

5:21pm
Me:
You realize its 2013 almost?

5:21pm
Xtian:

"One of the reasons I started taking this anti-evolutionary view, was ... it struck me that I had been working on this stuff for twenty years and there was not one thing I knew about it. That's quite a shock to learn that one can be so misled so long. ...so for the last few weeks I've tried putting a simple question to various people and groups of people. Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing that is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing -- it ought not to be taught in high school'."
Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London Keynote address at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City

5:22pm
Me:
Science does challenge itself. Thats why it works. Religion has no answers. Zero. You using lysol or bird blood to kill mold?

5:22pm
Xtian:
The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils.
Stephen Jay Gould, Former Professor of Geology and Paleontology at Harvard University

5:23pm
Xtian:
"The Carbon-14 contents of the shells of the snails of Melanoides tuberculatus living today in artesian springs in southern Nevada indicate an apparent age of 27,000 years."
Alan C. Riggs, Science, vol 224 (1984) 58-61
lololol

"Evolution is unproved and improvable, we believe it because the only alternative is special creation, which is unthinkable."
(Sir Arthur Keith, a militant anti-Christian physical anthropologis
that last statement is fact

5:24pm
Me:
Quote mining?
LOL come on man.

5:25pm
Xtian:
wait i got some for your by evolutionists
well u obvious have not done your research
so i wanted to connect u with cats who have
u said every religion is made up right?

5:26pm
Xtian:
Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, as secular religion—a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian, but I must admit that in this one complaint—and Mr. Gish is but one of many to make it—the literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today”3 (Ruse).

5:28pm
Xtian:
enjoy this too
"One is forced to conclude that many scientists and technologists pay lip-service to Darwinian theory only because it supposedly excludes a Creator." (Dr. Michael Walker, Senior Lecturer in Anthropology, Sydney University, quoted in Quadrant, October, 1982.)
belief in evolution has never been and will never be about the facts
thats was never intended

5:28pm
Me:
See I cant even take your quotes serious becase they act like Christianity is the only religion in existance

5:28pm
Xtian:
it was intended to be an alternative to God

5:28pm
Me:
theyre emotional

5:28pm
Xtian:
thats fact
do research on it
lol

5:29pm
Me:
Ive done it already
But regardless. None of that helps the atrocity that is biblical scripture
and thus whatever beliefs spawn from it
Even NT

5:30pm
Xtian:
i got some scientific articles for you
gotta find them
they produce some holes
big ones
well you are right
doesnt prove that the NT is true
but it does show that its best alternative has serious flaws
hence the word theory

5:31pm
Me:
evrything is a theory
You have bad science man.
Gravity is a theory

5:32pm
Xtian:
how do you prove something to be true that isnt testable?
when you answer that, we can conclude evolution is true
or even proveable
but u cant
no one can
are theories theories
if so thats weird
gravity founded by a believer

5:42pm
Me:
you mean when the church was killing non believers?
my bad FB was acting up
When the church told Galileo to recant the idea of a heliocentric solar system or die?
The idea of being a non believer wasnt even safe until recently
everyone acted like they believed... even Mother Theresa

5:50pm
Xtian:
recently?
centuries ago

5:53pm
Me:
Galileo yes in the 1600s
Yes, christians did fund a lot of science that was the cornerstone for todays science. But thats why the church fears science now
and would rather say things like god planted dino bones to test your faith or the light from the stars is here to trick us

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 09:22:45 AM »
Wow, how do you keep your sanity.  I would have told him to , as John Boner says," go fuck yourself" half way thru that.  Interesting how he makes religion fit for himself...like the part where he says, "Christ did not die for everyone" and "I does not believe in free will".  Which people did he die for?

Also this line was interesting...God created man in his own image and man, being the gentlemen he is, returned the favor.  WTF does that mean?
Yo, put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Quit ragging on my Lord.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 10:17:44 AM »
I'm impressed. I truly am.

There's not a single person on earth I would have been able to have THAT discussion with, without completely losing patience and getting fed up and unkind about it. He seems to think he knows a lot about atheists (as we're all one big homogenous group who march in lockstep over every issue - I'm sure you've noticed that since you joined our club) and how we became atheists.

And yep, he displayed every known symptom. The only known vaccination is to administer what you gave him and hope that he responds appropriately. Best of luck with that - I realize that this person is your friend and you probably do care about the outcome. Keep saying it, he may surprise you.

My tolerance for BS is limited, and I use up most of it IRL.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 12:04:33 PM »
On January 1st, 2014, post this:

Oh, the god thing. You probably meant this year, right. You said last year. But it didn't happen. So you must have meant this year. Or next. Or the one after that. Well, whatever it take to help you maintain your low level of maturity is fine with me. Good luck with that.
Not everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They're all entitled to mine though.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 12:11:05 PM »
LOL. I find this hilarious. 'I don't believe in breadsticks, bacon or boneless wings'

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u dont believe IN God
I dont believe in breadsticks
we all dont believe in something
nor do i believe in turkey bacon or boneless wings
they dont exist

This guy needs to get a fucking brain transplant. He doesn't even appear to know what belief is.
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"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 03:29:36 PM »
I literally texted him a photo of turkey bacon and he still doesnt believe.

Anyone know how to lose those lines?

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 03:47:35 PM »
Wow, how do you keep your sanity.  I would have told him to , as John Boner says," go fuck yourself" half way thru that.  Interesting how he makes religion fit for himself...like the part where he says, "Christ did not die for everyone" and "I does not believe in free will".  Which people did he die for?

Also this line was interesting...God created man in his own image and man, being the gentlemen he is, returned the favor.  WTF does that mean?
He basically admitted god was man made. He was saying that gods description by men makes him like men. I think we all can agree... next time i focus in on that statement.

I wasnt quite ready and my cpu was acting up so i couldnt go to my resources. Since he claims to be a OEC im going with the creation story, god lied in the garden and the serpent told the truth, no original sin, jesus irrelevant. Angle.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 03:53:08 PM »
On January 1st, 2014, post this:

Oh, the god thing. You probably meant this year, right. You said last year. But it didn't happen. So you must have meant this year. Or next. Or the one after that. Well, whatever it take to help you maintain your low level of maturity is fine with me. Good luck with that.
what PP said lol
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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 04:12:54 PM »
Wow, I just watched myself go through a mental gyration over this. Here's more or less what I thought:

"Cool Gawd is going to keep after him. Good! I'm gonna ask him to keep us up to date. Wow, I shouldn't do that, it's not ok to be cheering him on, hoping he "wins". Yes it is, a win means the dude de-converts, and that's a GOOD thing. Oh fer fuck sakes just admit it - I'm nosy."

So, whatever my motivations (which are apparently unclear even to me) please continue to share the story. You did a great job so far, and the crack is there, just begging to be pried open a little further.
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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 05:57:33 PM »
TG, You sure this wasn't Shin Karai you were conversing with?  Sounds just like him...
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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 06:07:50 PM »
Anyone know how to lose those lines?

Done.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2013, 02:08:23 AM »
I read about 2/3 of it but I had to stop. It was aggravating that the subject jumped around so much. I wish you hadn't just accepted so much of the stuff he said and pressed him harder on other things. He changed topic so much because I don't think he had an answer... but then again I guess you wouldn't have much of a chance convincing him anyway.

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Re: Ambush by christian... heres the transcript
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 03:39:48 AM »
I read about 2/3 of it but I had to stop. It was aggravating that the subject jumped around so much. I wish you hadn't just accepted so much of the stuff he said and pressed him harder on other things. He changed topic so much because I don't think he had an answer... but then again I guess you wouldn't have much of a chance convincing him anyway.
thats a tactic they use... its almost universal. Whenever cornered they change the subject, just like on the boards. And of course not answering anything is another tactic. But next time I see him online Im going to nail him down on some things since he made specific claims. I'll do MY best to keep it on topic for ease of reading...