What I am saying is that the population of this planet praying to rocks is much less then that praying to god, If that wasn't true this Site would Be called "Why Won't Rocks Heal Amputees?" Since many people believe they receive answers from a god, you would need to show me proof of a flaw in their consciousness that causes them to falsely perceive it, If you can't do that then who is to say that you are not the broken ones??
(PS this is so completely off subject, but I feel that it is the only thing left being discussed in this thread so Ill continue for a bit more at least)
I'm kind of late to this party. I hope it doesn't feel like a pile-on.
Part of being rational creatures is that not only can we believe something, we can come up with a system that tests those beliefs to determine if the results validate the belief. After all, life requires results.
If someone claims that they are talking to god, and that god is answering them,
is it possible to test that belief? Or does god only answer in ways that either cannot be tested (or that is indistinguishable from imagination)?
It would be helpful if you could outline your thoughts on the matter. The site isn't called Why Wont Rocks Heal Amputees, it's WWGHA, because for millenia humans have stated as a fact
that that praying to god produces results; in other words, that god exists and does
intervene directly and materially in ways that we can perceive. That is what people all over the world believe: Prayer produces results.
While people have been believing this for a long, long time, now that we have developed disciplines that can quantify results, we find that the only results prayer achieve are those identical to placebo. Belief in imaginary things can produce similar physiological results to belief in "real" things.
Since many people believe they receive answers from a god, you would need to show me proof of a flaw in their consciousness that causes them to falsely perceive it...
The common belief is that god answers prayers in ways that produce material results in relation to the prayer. Analysis of prayer and result shows that there is no connection beyond the psychological change achieved by merely believing
, whether the thing you believe in is real or imaginary. It does not have any effect beyond the person doing the praying, and even that effect is very limited. Believing I am strong enough to lift a tank with my bare hands will NOT make it happen, nor will believing I am genius level IQ enable me to invent perpetual motion machines.
Believing that god answers prayers directly and materially when it can be demonstrated that does not happen, is the flaw in the consciousness. All attempts to prove otherwise achieve results consistent with the statement "god answers only in the same way rocks answer prayers", except that in a pinch you can pick up the rock and throw it at someone.
There's your flaw in their consciousness.