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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2015, 12:01:53 AM »

I'm just waiting kcrady to fuck him up. Then this guy can be banned forever, like his persecution complex demands.


It's all about credibility, folks.

Anger, frustration, and hostility are the only responses that atheists are capable of offering.


It's all about credibility, folks. (except it's not actually lol; it's about the subject matter)


Anger, frustration, and hostility are the only responses that theists are capable of offering. See how anyone can play your empty claims game? Cool huh?

;D

A month ago, Rachel Dolezal had loads of subject matter.
Where did that get her?

In fact, she still does.  She's still the same person; nothing has changed.


...except credibility.

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2015, 12:16:37 AM »

I'm just waiting kcrady to fuck him up. Then this guy can be banned forever, like his persecution complex demands.


It's all about credibility, folks.

Anger, frustration, and hostility are the only responses that atheists are capable of offering.


It's all about credibility, folks. (except it's not actually lol; it's about the subject matter)


Anger, frustration, and hostility are the only responses that theists are capable of offering. See how anyone can play your empty claims game? Cool huh?

;D

A month ago, Rachel Dolezal had loads of subject matter.
Where did that get her?

In fact, she still does.  She's still the same person; nothing has changed.


...except credibility.

You made the claim that "It's all about credibility" (implying people's reputations, such as "angry" atheists, etc) and have yet to backup that claim. No, it's not all about credibility (ad hominem fallacy). It's about the preponderance of the evidence, in this case regarding the bible. Dolezal does not negate everything the organization stands for, nor does anyone else doing wrong, making bad decisions, making mistakes, in places all over the world. Sorry. Your fallacious reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it does.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2015, 12:44:19 AM »

You made the claim that "It's all about credibility" (implying people's reputations, such as "angry" atheists, etc) and have yet to backup that claim. No, it's not all about credibility (ad hominem fallacy). It's about the preponderance of the evidence, in this case regarding the bible. Dolezal does not negate everything the organization stands for, nor does anyone else doing wrong, making bad decisions, making mistakes, in places all over the world. Sorry. Your fallacious reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it does.

Yes, it actually is ALL about credibility.  If you're not believable nothing you have to offer matters.

If you knew who Rachel Dolazol is, you'd understand my point.

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2015, 12:47:02 AM »

You made the claim that "It's all about credibility" (implying people's reputations, such as "angry" atheists, etc) and have yet to backup that claim. No, it's not all about credibility (ad hominem fallacy). It's about the preponderance of the evidence, in this case regarding the bible. Dolezal does not negate everything the organization stands for, nor does anyone else doing wrong, making bad decisions, making mistakes, in places all over the world. Sorry. Your fallacious reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it does.

Yes, it actually is ALL about credibility.  If you're not believable nothing you have to offer matters.

If you knew who Rachel Dolazol is, you'd understand my point.

Oh, I understand your point quite well. And I also understand how wrong and irrational your point is too (which apparently you don't). You see, focusing upon a person, rather than the argument a person is making, is called Argumentum Ad Hominem. It is irrational no matter how many times you use it. Sorry.

If you actually studied logic you might understand.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2015, 12:48:24 AM »

You made the claim that "It's all about credibility" (implying people's reputations, such as "angry" atheists, etc) and have yet to backup that claim. No, it's not all about credibility (ad hominem fallacy). It's about the preponderance of the evidence, in this case regarding the bible. Dolezal does not negate everything the organization stands for, nor does anyone else doing wrong, making bad decisions, making mistakes, in places all over the world. Sorry. Your fallacious reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it does.

Yes, it actually is ALL about credibility.  If you're not believable nothing you have to offer matters.

If you knew who Rachel Dolazol is, you'd understand my point.

In case you're confused, we're not all Rachel. Any more than the NAACP is all Rachel. Earlier this evening you told me I was using a minority as an example (muslims cutting folks heads off) and now here you are, using a minority (ironically, not a minority, but you get my drift) as an example.

You need to tell us ahead of time if you're gonna use double standards. Its the credible thing to do.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2015, 12:50:49 AM »

You made the claim that "It's all about credibility" (implying people's reputations, such as "angry" atheists, etc) and have yet to backup that claim. No, it's not all about credibility (ad hominem fallacy). It's about the preponderance of the evidence, in this case regarding the bible. Dolezal does not negate everything the organization stands for, nor does anyone else doing wrong, making bad decisions, making mistakes, in places all over the world. Sorry. Your fallacious reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it does.

Yes, it actually is ALL about credibility.  If you're not believable nothing you have to offer matters.

If you knew who Rachel Dolazol is, you'd understand my point.

Oh, I understand your point quite well. And I also understand how wrong and irrational your point is too (which apparently you don't). You see, focusing upon a person, rather than the argument a person is making, is called Argumentum Ad Hominem. It is irrational no matter how many times you use it. Sorry.

If you actually studied logic you might understand.

A person with the ability to lie for personal gain (regardless of what that gain is) has proven that they don't possess the moral boundaries necessary to be trustworthy.

Without those boundaries, information value suffers.

The quest for logical fallacies will never teach you this.

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2015, 12:52:31 AM »

In case you're confused, we're not all Rachel. Any more than the NAACP is all Rachel. Earlier this evening you told me I was using a minority as an example (muslims cutting folks heads off) and now here you are, using a minority (ironically, not a minority, but you get my drift) as an example.

You need to tell us ahead of time if you're gonna use double standards. Its the credible thing to do.

At the end of the day a liar is a liar.

Honesty and objectivity are learned skills.  If you don't have them, you are no different.

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2015, 01:02:54 AM »

A person with the ability to lie for personal gain (regardless of what that gain is) has proven that they don't possess the moral boundaries necessary to be trustworthy.

Without those boundaries, information value suffers.

The quest for logical fallacies will never teach you this.

I don't care how irrational you are willing to be in order to discredit and/or discount what someone has stated. It is still ad hominem. If Hitler said, "two plus two equals four" it is still true regardless of whether or not he has "no credibility" to you. And your ignoring the fact that you are attempting to justify discrediting someone based upon who they are as a person, or the the mistakes and/or bad decisions they have made, doesn't make your argument any less irrational (nor does it demonstrate your claim that "it's all about credibility"). Sorry. The facts are not all about credibility. The facts stand regardless of whether the person stating them is "credible".
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2015, 01:06:54 AM »

In case you're confused, we're not all Rachel. Any more than the NAACP is all Rachel. Earlier this evening you told me I was using a minority as an example (muslims cutting folks heads off) and now here you are, using a minority (ironically, not a minority, but you get my drift) as an example.

You need to tell us ahead of time if you're gonna use double standards. Its the credible thing to do.

At the end of the day a liar is a liar.

Honesty and objectivity are learned skills.  If you don't have them, you are no different.

A head cutter-offer is a head cutter-offer.

Not cutting off heads is a learned skill.

By the way, honest people can experience anger, frustration and even hostility. Your assumption that atheists are neither honest or credible makes it hard for you to get your point across, because you're talking to us like we are the scum of the earth. You claim to have something to say, but you are Lyell-limiting your posts to twitter-sized diatribes, and you're being obtuse to boot.

The fact that you know what you mean when you give us an abbreviated wording of your genius doesn't mean that we know what the fuck you're saying. And when we ask over and over for clarification, that is our way of telling you that a little clarity now and then would be nice.

Honesty sucks when it is poorly expressed.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2015, 06:06:46 AM »
Yes, it actually is ALL about credibility.  If you're not believable nothing you have to offer matters.

Indeed. Right now you have absolutely zero credibility on this forum. Might as well pack it in and leave then.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2015, 07:48:06 PM »
It's quite interesting how this honest, trustworthy christian Joe completely dodged post number 65...

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2015, 08:22:14 PM »
It's quite interesting how this honest, trustworthy christian Joe completely dodged post number 65...

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He dodged many other comments. I made a list somewhere...

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2015, 10:16:23 PM »
I delight in educating atheists as well as those who think they have the right to ridicule the beliefs of others rather than enter into adult-level discussion.

When dealing with a supposed "holy book" that has imaginary floods, zombies roaming the streets of Jerusalem, and a Talking Snake™, I think that ridicule is the proper adult response.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2015, 03:23:13 AM »
Well I missed a loy last night again!

Joe,

If you don't like the picture of the world posted earlier which is based on the description in Genesis along with Job 39, then maybe you should correct this with you own explanation. It is quite clear in the text that what god is creating in a flat earth with a dome over the top.

Now I have no doubt that the Hebrew may have had more thoughts about this later (though the Creation narrtive is based on the Babylonian creation myth so written maybe 500BCE, as trade expanded but I no of no where in which the basic construction of the cosmos is explained any differently and, of course, if there were... we wiould have a Biblical Contradiction wuldn't we?
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2015, 01:34:12 PM »
Joe wasn't on here last night, wheels, he hasn't been on since Saturday (technically Sunday but at 2am).

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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2015, 01:48:40 PM »
Joe wasn't on here last night, wheels, he hasn't been on since Saturday (technically Sunday but at 2am).

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