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Offline Hatter23

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We don't want atheist agenda
« on: October 12, 2012, 11:13:43 AM »
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In 1917, the Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian government and seized total power. The elimination of religious belief was the core element in their revolutionary program.

Immediately, churches were closed, Bibles were banned, and Christians became enemies of the state, resulting in imprisonment and execution.

A tiny handful of churches remained open for propaganda purposes. The Russian people suffered under the tyranny of atheistic communism.

This same scenario took place under Mao Zedong in China and Fidel Castro in Cuba and is happening throughout the world today. People of faith suffer when godless atheism has the reins.

My point is this: When the Coalition of American Atheists meets, it's not for fun, food and fellowship. They have an agenda. They're bedfellows with the American Civil Liberties Union, whose ultimate goal, through their misinterpretation of separation of church and state, is the abolition of prayer and Bible reading from public institutions, the removal of "In God We Trust" from our currency and the deposition of all Bible inscriptions from government buildings.

Nativities would be a crime against the state, as would the posting of the Ten Commandments.

The Humanist Manifesto would reign over God and the Bible, and America would fall under the control of godless atheism.

I honestly believe that the movement of the Coalition of American of Free Thinkers and the ACLU is the most sinister campaign in America today.

Regardless, God's love is unchanging, and His offer of salvation applies to everyone.
I ask, when is the Church of Jesus Christ going to awaken from its apathy? "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." (Psalms 33:12.)

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What a mish mash of non sequiturs, bad company fallacies, straw man attacks, ad homs, and equivocations on what "public" means.

An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 11:45:00 AM »
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"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." (Psalms 33:12.)

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fuck does that mean? Is there a piece missing? I though god is the lord?
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 12:23:20 PM »
Look at how many many churches there are in this country.  In some towns one almost on every block.  They can put up nativity scenes until the "Holy" cows come home and its fine.  Just don't do it on public grounds.  Why do Christians find the need to do this?
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 12:26:31 PM »
Heh.  The author had me at "godless atheists."  Classic!!!   ;D

it's like WASP.  Ever meet an Anglo-Saxon who wasn't white???  They're "ASPs."   :police:
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 12:43:56 PM »
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"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." (Psalms 33:12.)

Pardon my ignorance, but what the fuck does that mean? Is there a piece missing? I though god is the lord?

In the original Hebrew in this verse, "Lord" is IHVH, which is rendered in most translation as either "Lord" or "LORD".  A more accurate translation would be "Yahweh", which is the name most freethinkers use when talking about the biblical deity.

In any event, I think the psalm means that a nation is blessed if it worships Yahweh, rather than any other deity (fictional or not).  It's ambiguous, though, and open to interpretation.  Shocking when it comes to scripture, I know, but there it is.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 01:13:42 PM »
I cannot believe there is actually a person named "Homer Snavely".  That just does not happen.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2012, 01:51:40 PM »
Crap, nobody told me that we're supposed to be conspiring. I don't know if I have time for that. You guys will have to go ahead and be revolting without me.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2012, 02:48:36 PM »
It just pisses me off that someone let the "black" cat out of the bag.  Such care was taken to protect the agenda.  So does this mean the "family friendly" baby BBQ is off?
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 03:00:00 PM »
In the original Hebrew in this verse, "Lord" is IHVH, which is rendered in most translation as either "Lord" or "LORD".  A more accurate translation would be "Yahweh", which is the name most freethinkers use when talking about the biblical deity.

In any event, I think the psalm means that a nation is blessed if it worships Yahweh, rather than any other deity (fictional or not).  It's ambiguous, though, and open to interpretation.  Shocking when it comes to scripture, I know, but there it is.

Thanks, that makes sense now. It sounded so redundant. My HS teacher had an easier time explaining Shakespeare to me.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2012, 03:09:53 PM »
Hey Nick, the BBQ is still on, it's just been moved to a different location. No worries, we'll still be enjoying our babies.

I was thinking maybe we could try deep frying a few. Anybody have access to a turkey fryer? I have a smoker attached to my grill, any interest in that?
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2012, 03:17:10 PM »
As usual, the church side is overlooking a very important little detail - the separation of Church and State is a two-way street. I went ahead and reminded the author in the comment section, so I'm sure he'll factor that in the next time he publicly takes an asinine position.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2012, 03:38:38 PM »
Thanks, that makes sense now. It sounded so redundant.

Yes, it does sound strange.  It sounds kind of weird in other places, too, though.  Try reading the World English Bible translation of Genesis 2, for example.  It constantly refers to him as "Yahweh God", which is kind of like constantly referring to the American president as "Obama Human".  I assume that it's due to some kind of linguistic convention that the ancient Hebrews had but that we don't.

The IHVH thing, by the way, is called the Tetragrammaton, and is one of the more amusing aspects of Christianity in my opinion.  It's the name of the deity that Christians all worship, and they can't even agree on what his name actually is.  Some use "LORD" (in all capitals, to distinguish IHVH from other uses of the word "Lord", I assume), but the preferred term these days among skeptics and some others is "Yahweh".  Another one, which you've probably heard of, is "Jehovah".  And I had a roommate once who insisted that God's name was "Christ", which is even more ridiculous than any other position because Christ's name wasn't even Christ; Christ isn't a name, it's a title.

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My HS teacher had an easier time explaining Shakespeare to me.

It's kind of a toss-up which is more gibberish-y.
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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2012, 06:47:47 PM »
I love it when religious people (mainly Christians) mention "atheism" their first goto is "Communism". As if both are synonymous with each other? Also, Cuba maybe "atheistic" but its people are all mainly Catholics. And, the government allows them to be Catholics. (Though, I believe only since the late 80's early 90's).

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Re: We don't want atheist agenda
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 04:58:36 PM »
Homer Snavely missed out "eating babies" - I don't think he did his research very well.

I cannot believe there is actually a person named "Homer Snavely".  That just does not happen.
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