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Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« on: October 01, 2012, 03:46:21 PM »
Justin Obriecht thought he had it all.

"I had a good life,” said Obriecht recently at Hope Covenant Church. “I had enough money, I didn't have a lot of stress. Things were really good for me as an atheist."

Starting with his first restaurant opening in Tinley Park in 2001, Obriecht went on to open Culver’s locations in Orland Park, Tinley Park, Frankfort, Homewood and Matteson. But he later found something was missing.

Today, Obriecht is a member of Willow Creek Community Church. His talk at Hope Covenant Church in Orland Park was his second testimony.

“The nice thing about a testimony is it's a story about what happened in my life,” Obriecht said. “It's not about me shoving anything down anyone’s throat. A testimony is the quickest way to get to know somebody. I have put that out to all my employees. I have not received any negative reply about my relationship with Jesus Christ."

Obriecht came bearing Butterburgers, custard, a few of his employees and his testimony. More than 100 people came out to enjoy dollar Butterburgers and Culver's custard before listening to Obriecht’s story.

"I opened up a business when everyone thought the world was coming to an end," Obriecht said. 

Days after the 9/11 attack, Justin was preparing to open his first Culver's restaurant in Tinley Park. Just 25, Obriecht was the youngest person to open up a Culvers restaurant. Three years later, the Tinley Park Culver's had $3 million in sales, more than any other Culver's.

Five years after he found the success in Tinley Park, Obriecht opened restaurants in the other four nearby towns.

"The south suburbs have supported us amazingly,” he said. “I give a lot of that credit to the people of the south suburbs."

Obriecht gave back along the way. He participated in cancer walks, fundraisers for area schools and other philanthropy.

"I was an atheist but I wasn't a bad person,” Obriecht said. “I wasn't cheating, I wasn't stealing but I swore a little too much. The only difference is when you have a belief in God and you know God, he expects you to be more disciplined.”

Obriecht was traveling when he stopped in Tennessee, and began meditating around 2 a.m. He suddenly felt a warmth and peace come over him. He said that Jesus came into his life at that moment.

Obriecht immediately called his mother, who had become a Christian a few years before. She had almost the same experience.

Rather than open more restaurants, Obriecht and his new wife Tara are working on helping others.

"As far as charity work, I started a program three weeks ago,” he said. “When I was saved I went around and told my testimony to all the homeless people that lived around me. One day one of the ladies named Carrie asked me to take her to church. A light bulb went off. Maybe there are others that would like this opportunity. I decided to set up a program where I hand out flyers throughout the week. Whoever shows up at the bus stop near my building, my wife and I pay for them to get on the bus. We go to church together. After church my wife and I buy them lunch and give them tickets to do laundry the following Saturday."

Most theist/atheist arguments tend to boil down to this: Theists quote scriptures as if they were facts and atheists cite facts as if they were facts.

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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 04:03:01 PM »
I'm a little suspicious.  Notice how he talks about not being a bad person not sealing and such?  Like that is what atheists do.  Seems to smell a bit to me.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 04:14:09 PM »
So, he's basing this conversion on the fact that he was meditating and felt warm and at peace?

Isn't that kind of the point of meditating?  I've meditated at night and felt warmth and peace, usually as an effort to relax enough to sleep.  Gonna need more than that to convince me.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 04:50:42 PM »
I kinda imagine him to look like this:



but with a crucifix.

I do think that his testimony is flipping ridiculous though. It is not particularly philosophically sound.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2012, 06:11:54 PM »

Rather than open more restaurants, Obriecht and his new wife Tara are working on helping others.

"As far as charity work, I started a program three weeks ago,” he said. “When I was saved I went around and told my testimony to all the homeless people that lived around me. One day one of the ladies named Carrie asked me to take her to church. A light bulb went off. Maybe there are others that would like this opportunity. I decided to set up a program where I hand out flyers throughout the week. Whoever shows up at the bus stop near my building, my wife and I pay for them to get on the bus. We go to church together. After church my wife and I buy them lunch and give them tickets to do laundry the following Saturday."

I would much rather him open more restaraunts which will give more people jobs than spend his money taking homeless people to church.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 06:22:44 PM »
This dude was never an atheist.  End of story.  There are way too many pathetic attempts by people who think that not attending church is being atheist.  Real atheists don't convert to theism.  ;D

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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 09:10:21 PM »
No cheating or stealing but hamburgers, swearing and meditation; hmmm, toss in some beer and I might be convinced to accept jesus.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 11:41:36 PM »
This dude was never an atheist.  End of story.  There are way too many pathetic attempts by people who think that not attending church is being atheist.  Real atheists don't convert to theism.  ;D
"No True Scotsman" is still a fallacy no matter who uses it.  :P

I kid.  I know what you mean, he was probably willing to believe, just didn't have the emotional reason to believe until that experience he had (which naturally was shared by a Christian, therefore it could only have been done by Jesus).  I get so tired of people making the correlation fallacy.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2012, 01:40:18 AM »
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Obriecht was traveling when he stopped in Tennessee, and began meditating around 2 a.m. He suddenly felt a warmth and peace come over him. He said that Jesus came into his life at that moment.

I can't help but imagine that this guy was rasied as a christian, didn't really think about religion too much, then reinterpreted the last 10-15 years of his life as "atheist".

Would explain why it apparently took so little to 'convert' him...
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 02:18:12 AM »
This dude was never an atheist.  End of story.  There are way too many pathetic attempts by people who think that not attending church is being atheist.  Real atheists don't convert to theism.  ;D

He was possibly an atheist by the strict definition of the word: He didn't believe in a/any god. However, I highly doubt that he ever gave the issue much thought and/or even to this day knows what the word 'atheist' even means.

At any rate: Your statement might, to avoid fallacy, be better rendered as : Atheists who have given serious thought to the subject and understand it don't convert to theism.  :P
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 04:04:12 AM »
I'm a little suspicious ...  Seems to smell a bit to me.

I agree.

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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 05:16:11 AM »
I'm a little suspicious ...  Seems to smell a bit to me.
I agree.

He reeks of Poe. And onions.

Something about the story just doesn't quite add up. Hatter, was this the article you posted? http://orlandpark.patch.com/articles/local-culvers-owner-finds-solace-in-religion
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 06:08:57 AM »

At any rate: Your statement might, to avoid fallacy, be better rendered as : Atheists who have given serious thought to the subject and understand it don't convert to theism.  :P

Of course, you are more accurate.  I was just trying to be mean.   >:(

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 06:55:03 AM »
I'm a little suspicious ...  Seems to smell a bit to me.
I agree.

He reeks of Poe. And onions.

Something about the story just doesn't quite add up. Hatter, was this the article you posted? http://orlandpark.patch.com/articles/local-culvers-owner-finds-solace-in-religion

Yes. There's another possible interpretation here. This article was free publicity for his restaurants; pehaps he's joining the fast food faith to dollars trend.
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Re: Atheist Burger Joint Owner becomes Christian
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 08:18:12 AM »
The God discount...like Chic-Fil-A with the gay thing.
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 06:03:29 PM »
Yes. There's another possible interpretation here. This article was free publicity for his restaurants; pehaps he's joining the fast food faith to dollars trend.

Perhaps the franchisor didn't like the franchisee's lack of faith, and the franchisee wants to buy into another franchise ...

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