2012 election

[screwtape]

I liked this one:

You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan?

Lipstick.

[Jag]

My favorite: Joe Biden laughed at him? Of course, he did. The only other option was to hand him a participation ribbon and take him to Burger King for lunch.

Thanks for the links!

[stuffin]

I liked this one:

You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan?

Lipstick.

There is a pig joke in there somewhere.

[Nick]

I saw a line somewhere today that said, "it was like watching Grandpa Simpson and Eddie Munster debate".

[shnozzola]

On PBS tonight,
               "Why the President Is Still a Heavy Favorite on the Prediction Markets"
 - interesting look at polling, prediction markets, etc.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/10/why-the-president-is-still-a-heavy-favorite-on-the-prediction-markets.html

Electoral College and betting links:
                  http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2012presidentstates
                  http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
                  http://sports.betfair.com/?ex=1&mi=21311313&oldios=safe
                  http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres12_Quotes.html

[Nick]

Interesting stuff.  Must be a lot of money playing this thing out.

[Nick]

The Koch Bros and several other CEOs have sent out letters to their 1000s of employees telling them that if Obama wins here will be layoffs.  Even after millions of dollars, voter suppression, and false stories they resort to this as a valid way to elect officials in this country.  Pretty f*cking sad.

[Chronos]

Now FOX News is trying to say that Joe Biden has dementia or was intoxicated ... and everyone knows that Joe doesn't drink alcohol:

[Nick]

Man, what are we in for if Republicans get congress and the White House?  The way money and big business has worked its way into the system we may never get a Dem elected again.  Even if Obama does manage to pull this out what happens 4 years from now.  I may have to take a trip to Canada for real just to see how I would like it up there.  Its going to be a mess down here.

[relativetruth]

Man, what are we in for if Republicans get congress and the White House?  The way money and big business has worked its way into the system we may never get a Dem elected again.  Even if Obama does manage to pull this out what happens 4 years from now.  I may have to take a trip to Canada for real just to see how I would like it up there.  Its going to be a mess down here.

Not only will you be screwed in the USA we in Europe will also be negatively affected.
 Western economy relies on a strong USA [The current Euro crisis was precipitated by American sub-prime loans which occurred during W Bush deregulation!!].

The, science challenged, religious right do not seem to understand basic mathematics and history when it comes to the country deficits.

1. Wars cost money, Trillions under W, The Roman Empire could not sustain the cost continual expansion.

2. When you are in a recession you need stimulus money which ONLY governments can provide. Governments can create jobs by providing money to rebuild [and create] infrastructure. Private enterprise will never have the resources to fund this.   

3. The 'Tricle down' economy would only work during the 'good times'. This is when entrenpeners risks huge amounts of personal wealth on a business venture. The smart and successfull capitalists are less inclined to invest during a recession.
Only  governments have the resources to invest in new technologies like renewable energy sources etc.

[Fiji]

Someone explain this to me ... Some won't vote for Obama because he might be a muslim.
And at a certain level, I can understand that, Islam is a religion, made up by a guy who figured he could benefit from it and who based it loosely on Christianity so that it would be instantly popular. Ok, I get it[1], you can't trust a guy who follows that religion.

These very same people prefer to vote for Romney ... who is of course a Mormon ... which is a religion, made up by a guy who figured he could benefit from it and who based it loosely on Christianity so that it would be instantly popular.

Hang on, something's not entirely right here ... 

1.	like I said, at a certain level

[Nick]

Romney's white.

[Fiji]

I seeeeee ... logic of the kind
- if A then B
- if B then C
- Therefor: Penguin
I'm gonna wash my brain in bleach now

[relativetruth]

Romney's white.

And there is a black in the white house!!!

For Pete's sake!

[ParkingPlaces]

Someone explain this to me ... Some won't vote for Obama because he might be a muslim.
And at a certain level, I can understand that, Islam is a religion, made up by a guy who figured he could benefit from it and who based it loosely on Christianity so that it would be instantly popular. Ok, I get it[1], you can't trust a guy who follows that religion.

These very same people prefer to vote for Romney ... who is of course a Mormon ... which is a religion, made up by a guy who figured he could benefit from it and who based it loosely on Christianity so that it would be instantly popular.

Hang on, something's not entirely right here ... 

1.	like I said, at a certain level

It's okay if you're doing it wrong as long as you're doing it wrong right.

Something like that.

Brilliant question, but it doesn't explain the general distain for scientologists. Apparently one can carry this made up crap so far that even republicans won't fall for it.

Hard to believe.

[Nick]

Greta VanS??? on FOX News is a Scientologist so I guess if FOX acepts them they must be AOK.

[Hatter23]

Now FOX News is trying to say that Joe Biden has dementia or was intoxicated ... and everyone knows that Joe doesn't drink alcohol:

Fox News, plumbing new depths of partisanship!

[Fiji]

Partisans? Aren't those the ninja-clad fellows from CIV II?

[MadBunny]

I seeeeee ... logic of the kind
- if A then B
- if B then C
- Therefor: Penguin
I'm gonna wash my brain in bleach now

For some people it really is that simple.

[Hatter23]

For some people it really is that simple.

Two things come to mind when seeing that picture:

1)  Too many people will see that and continue their bias to believe the only reason people want Obama out are racists. That simply isn't true.

and conversely

2) What is more scary, those that come out and say it, or those that can't even admit it to themselves(i.e. Birthers)?

[MadBunny]

There is one positive thing about guys like that.

At least he's honest about why he doesn't like Obama. 
Rather than coming up with a bunch of BS or trying to pretend otherwise he just ups and admits it.

Saves a lot of time spent dismissing bullshit like birthers, truthers, and Islamaphobia.

The thing is; it's not against the law to be racist, or for that matter even a bigot.  If he wants to vote against President Obama for a shallow reason like skin color he can.  As stupid as it is, it's still a better excuse than the others.[1]

If I had my choice I'd rather have an honest racist than a dishonest 'other'.[2]  At least at that point you can ask whether or not his hatred of color is more important than his love of the country.  In other words: will he vote against his own interest or not?

1.	birther, truther, commie, fascist, socialist, hitler-ist, islamist or whatever.
2.	birther, truther, commie, fascist, socialist, hitler-ist, islamist or whatever.

[Death over Life]

Romney's white.

And there is a black in the white house!!!

For Pete's sake!

Please don’t get the conservatives started. Although somebody hijacked the photo I was going to use, they have already started making t-shirts about it. This is the base Romney panders to.

There is one positive thing about guys like that.

At least he's honest about why he doesn't like Obama. 
Rather than coming up with a bunch of BS or trying to pretend otherwise he just ups and admits it.

Saves a lot of time spent dismissing bullshit like birthers, truthers, and Islamaphobia.

The thing is; it's not against the law to be racist, or for that matter even a bigot.  If he wants to vote against President Obama for a shallow reason like skin color he can.  As stupid as it is, it's still a better excuse than the others.[1]

If I had my choice I'd rather have an honest racist than a dishonest 'other'.[2]  At least at that point you can ask whether or not his hatred of color is more important than his love of the country.  In other words: will he vote against his own interest or not?

1.	birther, truther, commie, fascist, socialist, hitler-ist, islamist or whatever.
2.	birther, truther, commie, fascist, socialist, hitler-ist, islamist or whatever.

I know right? At least we on the left have our wifer movement on Romney to combat the silliness of the rest.

But some good news chiming in, Supreme Court upholds early voting in Ohio, who are still voting for Obama in droves. Let the paranoia stop about Romney, Obama's pretty much guaranteed re-election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/supreme-court-ohio-early-voting_n_1970603.html?ref=election-2012-blog&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D220884

And if Romney really does become President, at least let us take a glimpse in Day 1 of Office!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/mitt-romney-day-one-promises_n_1968893.html?ref=election-2012-blog&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D220884

ENERGY
 - Approve construction of the Keystone XL pipeline (and perhaps build it with his own bare hands)
 - Sign an executive order boosting drilling

  Kill jetson and I off with all that damned pollution why don't you?

HEALTH CARE
 - Sign an executive order that would pave the way to end Obamacare

  And people have been bitching about Obama's 1 executive order! This guy's going to already surpass his executive orders 1st day in Office!

INTERNATIONAL
- Sign an executive order sanctioning China for unfair trade practices

  3 Executive orders on the 1st day!? He's already in 1 day did more Executive orders than Obama in 4 years! Yikes.

OTHER
 - Sign an executive order immediately eliminating Obama-era regulations that "unduly burden the economy or job creation"

  I'm not much of a fan of baseball, but I think the 3 strikes and you are out rule should apply here. 4 Executive Orders on day 1 in office! I'm not going to lie, but if he sticks with his Day 1 Promises, I see this guy getting impeached before the end of the year.

[Nick]

I wonder what he is going to do the other 364 days?

If Romney gives a decree making polygamy legal again and takes on more wives are they all 1st ladies?

[nogodsforme]

"Yeah, Obama's a communist. That means I don't like him. He doesn't think like us."

Whatever, racist lady. 

And at her age, she's on that communist health program, medicare. I doubt she is planning on giving that up anytime soon. I wish the guy had asked her if she was in favor of Obama's communist government health care plan. And if she wouldn't rather take her chances on the private market, maybe with a Romney-Ryan health voucher.....

[Garja]

^ pshhh, thats because everyone knows that government cant supply quality care less expensively than can the free market.

[Chronos]

According to Ann Coulter, there isn't a single racist person left in America after the 1964 Civil Rights Act:

For some people it really is that simple.

Naw ... naw ... that's not racist ... nope ...

[JeffPT]

At least he's honest about why he doesn't like Obama. 
Rather than coming up with a bunch of BS or trying to pretend otherwise he just ups and admits it.

On the flip side, how many black people were voting for him just because he's black?  I wonder whether there are more people voting for him because he's black, or voting against him because he's black. 

[Nick]

Obama did a good job tonight against Romney.  Makes you wonder about the 1st debate?  I don't want to sound like a conspiratorist but is it possible that Obama wanted to do poorly in the 1st debate to get the race looking closer to energize and get out the vote?  In the mid term elections the dem base stayed home.  I think there was some fear that if Obama looked like a shoe in they might stay home enough to let Romney sneak in.

Anyhow, good debate.  Romney looked like the rich guy who just could not relate to most of us except for that one kid who will get a job when he graduates.  Wonder if he will have to learn to say, "do you want fries with that?"  Also, if he will have any health insurance, make min wage, and/or have any future chances at advancement.

Romney did say he would creat 12 million jobs.  If you count this kid tonight he only has 11 million, 999 thousand, 999 hundred, + 99 to go.  Man, he is a job creator.

[jetson]

Bill Clinton last night: "Stop the debate, I want to hear more about this binder"  bwa ha ha hah aha ..