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Not allowed science anymore
« on: September 10, 2012, 03:12:05 PM »
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n7414/full/489170a.html

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"I'm sorry, Ms Melham...” he began, and then more kindly. “I'm sorry, Sacha, but you've crossed the threshold. I'm afraid to say, you're not allowed science any more.”

“I'm what?”

“You're not allowed science any more,” repeated James.

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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 03:46:17 PM »
Great find - indeed... if it were true...
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 03:54:44 PM »
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n7414/full/489170a.html

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"I'm sorry, Ms Melham...” he began, and then more kindly. “I'm sorry, Sacha, but you've crossed the threshold. I'm afraid to say, you're not allowed science any more.”

“I'm what?”

“You're not allowed science any more,” repeated James.

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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 04:10:07 PM »
The only problem I see is that banning science would make people like this even more likely to believe whatever lies and superstition they get fed.

On the other hand...we have driver's licenses, and you can get in serious trouble if you drive without one.  In a way, it's too bad we can't have similar "science licenses", where you're locked out of using such things until you pass the test to get the license.
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 04:13:21 PM »
Good find.
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2012, 01:13:12 AM »
It's a cute story, but fails for me when she asks "how" and his answer is "magic".
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2012, 01:37:27 AM »
It's a cute story, but fails for me when she asks "how" and his answer is "magic".

....if she is not allowed science, then she's only left with magic.
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2012, 05:18:09 AM »
Great story.  I think the "magic" line is excellent, as it fits entirely with the way she wants to view the universe. 

There could well have been a scientific explanation as to how "you are not allowed science" would work in practice - a combination of GPS tracking, a database, and a lot of computer systems, I would guess - but in the frame of the story it wouldn't have worked, I think.  In the novel-length version, or the film adaptation, it would fit, but it would break the flow of the short-story.
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Re: Not allowed science anymore
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 10:06:50 AM »
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