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Re: How faith healing works (and why God doesn't heal amputees)
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2012, 11:18:40 AM »
AHHH.... ON the Earth, you said IN so I got confused.... oh, and:

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Re: How faith healing works (and why God doesn't heal amputees)
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2012, 01:14:58 PM »
Quote from: SHIN KAIRI on December 21, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
^ Well... I have to admit that your post is a very good one. The only thing I can say is that the 144.000 of Revelation(which are already in the earth) will be soon be able to perform such miracles as the mountain thing. Let's w8 & see.

WoW. Really?? This is the whole, "You made really good points, and I can't refute them, but I'm going to keep believing because it's too painful to admit my beliefs are in error" tactic. What hubris! Seppuku's post completely demolished your bible's reliability. How can you sit there, in honesty, claiming to still believe this nonsense when you've just been shown that it is totally inconsistent and irrational??
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Re: How faith healing works (and why God doesn't heal amputees)
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2012, 01:20:09 PM »
^^ He uses method #2. He doesn't know what it is, but he uses it.



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Re: How faith healing works (and why God doesn't heal amputees)
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2012, 01:29:30 PM »
Quote from: SHIN KAIRI on December 16, 2012, 03:31:09 PM
OP : Yes yes, we all know about the placebo effect. Congrats on finding that... :P

The real question is, what if the placebo effect is in fact faith(at work)? What if Yehovah had purposefully provided the ability for a person's brain to be able to cure a physical problem by simply thinking he/she was healed? Food for thought...


And what if pink magic unicorns are controlling our thoughts from the backside of Pluto? These far fetched "what if" questions are only being posited because you have assumed your religion is true and you are now trying every which way to defend it against scrutiny or critical thinking. You have started with your conclusion. That is backwards.

Quote from: SHIN KAIRI on December 16, 2012, 03:31:09 PM
On the amputee thing, I thought I would address that right away. Let's put the title of this forum to rest shall we?... Here's the thing. If God healed amputees, then no faith would be required. He only cures internal diseases because nobody can completely & absolutely verify that it was The LORD healing that. This is also why it is written :...

Faith ISN'T required! That is exactly the point. Faith is not a good thing. Faith is just gullibility dressed up. Faith is believing something when you have no good reason to do so. It is the excuse people give when they can't give good reasons, or demonstrable unequivocal, evidence for their beliefs.

Faith is not a pathway to truth.
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Re: How faith healing works (and why God doesn't heal amputees)
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2012, 06:57:52 PM »
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Faith implies knowledge. If there is absolutely no knowledge, there than can be no faith. There is no such thing as total blind faith.

Only partial blind faith exists.

Nice dodge.

I don't agree with your knowledge/faith position. However, even if this claim were true, it says nothing about knowledge requiring faith. If you believe god desires faith, and yet you convince us through knowledge (evidence), then we will be the faithless believers that you claim the god does not want. In other words, if you convince us through evidence, we will not have faith. So contrary to what you claim the god wants, you are attempting to create faithless believers.

Please address the point that you are working at cross purposes to your god.
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