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Offline Samothec

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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2012, 05:04:50 PM »
I hadn't seen the vulture and toddler picture before. That alone is heartbreaking. HAL's collage centered on it is devastating: showing the hypocracy, indifference, selfishness and even monstrousness of people, especially very religious people.
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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2012, 05:23:24 PM »
...it seems (?) impossible to find a certain brand of christian that is willing or capable of having civil, logical discussions about their faith.  I mean, there are liberal christians who all but agree with me, and dogmatic sadists who are eager to see us all eternally tortured and can't string together a logical argument to save their lives, but nothing in between?...

I've tried to start conversations a couple of times about liberal christianity. I've never gotten much traction on them. Perhaps partly because the more liberal christians don't tend to come to these sites. And perhaps partly because its easier to discuss black and white issues, or try to make issues into black and white so that we can agree or deny more easily.

As an example, I find the discussions that rip apart the bible to be almost beside the point. Most christians don't believe in a literal bible, despite what our current political climate might suggest. So, rather than rip the bible to shreds, I'd like to hear from those folks why they believe what they believe. Why is a particular story "just" a parable? How did they come to that conclusion? What does it mean to them? And how/why are they christian in the first place? What defines them if the bible doesn't?

These and many other questions are of interest to me.
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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2012, 11:56:45 PM »
Check this one out - I made it a long time ago to make the same point.

I like this picture... I guess I should also disclose that I'm a Christ Follower
well that figures....did you even notice the picture in the middle or were you to busy giving glory to God for the obtuse and disgusting monuments built for him?
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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2012, 01:15:48 AM »
Anyone else think that's a good idea?

It certainly can't hurt.  I'm having a bit of trouble with my cynical side, though - after all, it's not what we do that makes us evil to the point of deserving eternal torture in the first place.  It's what we are.  And that's not changing.

I have the same problem.  When i hear stories of car bombings in Palestine, or shootings here in America, i get a little overwhelmed by just how monstrous human nature can be at times.  The state of the world sometimes puts in me in a state of shock. 

With that being said, jaimehlers is right.  Being proactive is the only way to make a difference.  I can afford to give at least one dollar a month.  Anybody know of a good organization to donate to?
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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2012, 11:32:13 AM »
I have the same problem.  When i hear stories of car bombings in Palestine, or shootings here in America, i get a little overwhelmed by just how monstrous human nature can be at times.  The state of the world sometimes puts in me in a state of shock. 

With that being said, jaimehlers is right.  Being proactive is the only way to make a difference.  I can afford to give at least one dollar a month.  Anybody know of a good organization to donate to?

Another organization to consider:
http://foundationbeyondbelief.org/
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Re: Why don't Christians understand?
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2012, 08:30:35 PM »
It's because they only see what they want to see. So they ignore the bad stuff happening in the world.
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