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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2012, 10:09:53 PM »
What was the expiration date on that theist, anyway?
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #88 on: August 21, 2012, 06:47:11 AM »
What was the expiration date on that theist, anyway?

I'd rather know his born-on date like Budweiser beer has.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2012, 09:14:59 AM »
Everything you see, all your logic, concepts et cetera were given to you by the Creator.
This relies on your assumption that there must have been a Creator.  The problem is, this is only an assumption and necessarily can never be anything but an assumption, because you weren't present when the Big Bang happened.  So, the explanation that there must have been a Creator of the Universe is necessarily flawed; explanations that depend on unsupported assumptions always are.

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Nobody's keeping you here.  But if you intend to keep participating in the discussion, you had better understand that it goes both ways.  If you say something that people disagree with, they're going to disagree.

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You are falling into the same trap that Satan and all his followers did which is to think you are equal with the Creator.
Again, predicated on your unprovable assumption that there is a Creator.  But to play along for a moment, I'll freely acknowledge that I'm not on the same level as a being which could presumably create a universe.

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Satan and all his followers are divided from the love of God and you will be too if you so choose.  My prayer is that you reach out to God and like a child lay out your concerns and questions.
Do you realize just how silly this is?  Our brains and minds don't exist so we can turn them off and turn to someone else for answers.  Especially not a being who's never been objectively shown to exist in the first place.

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He is faithful to answer.  Maybe not in your timing or manner but he will in the best possibly way for you and for his plan.  Faith is not something that is tangible (and there are many more intangibles).  You go to bed each night thinking you will wake up in the morning, is that not faith?  Once day you will not wake up.  Consider your eternity.  With love.
No, it is not faith.  Unless something happens to prevent it, I'll wake up every day.  It's no more taken on faith than the idea that I'll get hungry unless something happens to prevent it (such as my eating something).

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #90 on: August 21, 2012, 09:18:36 AM »
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The egotism brings them back.
You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2012, 12:37:17 PM »
I feel sorry for you.  You can debate your intellectual arguments all you want.  The FACTS are that you WILL face the creator and what will you say then?

Good!!  I hope I do, because I will be PROUD to say "You know what, you were absent all my life, and I lived the best life I knew how anyway!  What do you say to THAT, sir??"

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #92 on: August 21, 2012, 12:46:49 PM »
What was the expiration date on that theist, anyway?

I'd rather know his born-on date like Budweiser beer has.

budweiser tastes like piss[1]. When I worked for them, they tried to push it on me after I refused it.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2012, 12:51:35 PM »
The FACTS are that you WILL face the creator and what will you say then?

Why did you make the avocado pit so damn big?

And what's the deal with the appendix?

Wisdom teeth? WTF!

Nice work on the mosquitoes and malaria Big Guy!

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2012, 01:26:58 PM »
Yeah, we got lots of questions for the big guy. It's a good thing he has all of eternity, since he will have a whole lotta 'splainin' to do.

Menstruation
North Korea
That face eating bacteria
Gay Republicans
Intestinal parasites
Pacific ring of fire
Alzheimer's
Hemmorhoids
Land Mines
Birth defects
Reality TV
Cancer
Why everything that feels good is bad for you.
And so on.
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #95 on: August 21, 2012, 01:31:53 PM »
Always been a fan of the blowfly. That's a nasty critter. Why Gawd? Why?
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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #96 on: August 21, 2012, 08:18:40 PM »
Botflies and their other icky brethren are completely consistent with evolution. They are not at all consistent with a loving god.

Unless he is loving because he loves to watch people get infected by botflies.

And three foot long guinea worms.

And filarial worms.

And republicans.
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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2012, 06:26:33 AM »
Everything you see, all your logic, concepts et cetera were given to you by the Creator. 

NO - you silly sausage!  Everything was sneezed from the nose of the Great Green Arkleseizure. 

Disagree?  Fine!  Produce one piece of verifiable evidence that points solely to your chosen god-myth and then maybe - maybe - we can have a conversation.

Provide one piece of evidence?  Oh my dear friend, are you so blind?  There are literally billions all around you...


Excellent!  Then you will have NO problem in choosing just ONE that answers my question - that points solely and exclusively to YOUR particular god-myth: that would NOT be here if the universe came from any other god, or from none.
Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid.

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Re: How can something come from nothing?
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2012, 11:23:19 AM »
What was the expiration date on that theist, anyway?

I'd rather know his born-on date like Budweiser beer has.

It seems like that date should be "Yesterday" given his credulity.
Most theist/atheist arguments tend to boil down to this: Theists quote scriptures as if they were facts and atheists cite facts as if they were facts.