I don't understand this argument, "It's not delusional if it's socially acceptable."
Of coarse you don't, neither do I. That's because we are rational, and it's an irrational statement.
Here's the problem Graybeard. I'm trying to determine if you do or don't defer to experts in their respective fields and you are making it very difficult. I've already said I don't always defer to experts if they make irrational definitions. I'm not hiding that - never have. You are the one waivering on it.
You've said that according to experts a large population with delusions can't be classified as a mental illness. You agree
with experts here.
I disagree, and I'm with bertaberts on this, that it can be classified as a mental illness, and should be. It's a mind-virus - an illness. I believe, for example, that Mooby is ill in the head with this virus. He's mentally ill IMHO. Not a biological virus but more like a computer virus to an approximation. In any case it's consistent with what I've said all along - that I sometimes disagree with experts.
Then, you disagree
with the experts and say that Christians are delusional. Here, look again at the definition -
A delusion is a belief that is clearly false and that indicates an abnormality in the affected person's content of thought.
So far so good - that's Christians and Mooby to a tee ...
The false belief is not accounted for by the person's cultural or religious background or his or her level of intelligence.
Read more: Delusions - functioning, withdrawal, examples, person, people, brain, mood, Description http://www.minddisorders.com/Br-Del/Delusions.html#ixzz22seK7v6N
Oops! Houston we have a problem.
^^^ See what the experts say. The false belief must not be accounted for by the person's cultural or religious background or his or her level of intelligence. If it is accounted for that way, for example a large majority of people being Christians in the culture, it can't be a delusion according to the experts. I disagree with the experts again. That's a ridiculous part of the definition. No news there.
But you still say religion is a delusion. OK, so do I, but YOU now have decided to disagree
But look at what you told me -
It is also so that psychiatrists are the people who state what a mental illness is – we do not vote on this and there is no input from laymen. But someone has to have that responsibility, don’t they? And it’s best that it is someone who knows something about the subject or, as we say, ‘experts’.
The part I'm referring to is the last part. You made that statement so as to make people aware that we should defer to experts. You slapped me on the wrist with it - yet blatantly don't practice what you preach.
But that's the whole point of my questions to you. I've already asked you several times.
I suppose one more try can't hurt.
Do you or don't you defer to experts in their respective fields, as you told me to do once? Can you please clear up this muddy water?