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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2012, 01:17:58 AM »
Assuming we are going by the standard definition of faith (believing in spite of or in absence of evidence) a being that ran on pure faith would be completely shut out from all outside stimuli, or at least incredibly proficient at ignoring them. One could argue that to a specimen such as this, all it would take for said subject to move a mountain in their view of reality would be to believe they could move a mountain. This would not mean that the mountain actually moved in the real world; just that they've trained themselves to hallucinate very well.

Are you proposing that Jesus (assuming existence, reliability of that quote, etc.) was simply insane?
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2012, 02:48:39 AM »
I will choose faith.  I'm glad I live in a country where, by and large people will respect my faith.  I have looked at aetheism and it just doesn't work, seem logical or make sense for me. 

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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 03:01:45 AM »
I will choose faith.  I'm glad I live in a country where, by and large people will respect my faith.  I have looked at aetheism and it just doesn't work, seem logical or make sense for me. 

How is atheism so difficult?

Atheist: I don't believe in god/s.

That's it. How is that difficult?

The only people who respect your "faith",  are those of your "faith".

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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2012, 04:46:54 AM »
I will choose faith.  I'm glad I live in a country where, by and large people will respect my faith.  I have looked at aetheism and it just doesn't work, seem logical or make sense for me.

The concept that things operate without the need of an intangible invisible eternal superbeing seems illogical to you? How?
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2012, 10:04:42 AM »
I will choose faith.  I'm glad I live in a country where, by and large people will respect my faith.  I have looked at aetheism and it just doesn't work, seem logical or make sense for me.

I used to live in a very religious country but I'm far from "glad". I guess it's just a matter of perspective. Especially when you've seen head decapitation done by muslims right in front of you.

BTW, it's Atheism, ok ?

So, if I understand you correctly, are you saying that stuff that seem logical or make sense to you ( which in this case, Atheism ) is something that doesn't work for you ? It just won't do ?
You'd rather choose something that's illogical and doesn't make sense ?  :o
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2012, 10:24:19 AM »
It's "atheism", not capitalized. 

I don't think he was saying he cannot be an atheist because it is too logical.  I read it thusly:

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I have looked at aetheism and it just doesn't...
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... seem logical
... make sense for me.
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2012, 11:05:48 AM »
^you have a "d" on your "an". :P

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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2012, 01:55:51 PM »
I know this is old news but I just thought it was hilarious that these Christians do the same thing over and over. It's the infinite OP post and RUN syndrome! They shoot off one post thinking, "That will get them!" and then never return - or they just post, get scarred of having their absurd beliefs challenged, and RUN.

This is comedy to me because I used to do the same thing. It's like rewinding the tape and watching myself. The fear of becoming informed (losing ignorance and waking up to reality) is an absolutely terrible thing.
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2012, 02:43:14 PM »
I know this is old news but I just thought it was hilarious that these Christians do the same thing over and over. It's the infinite OP post and RUN syndrome! They shoot off one post thinking, "That will get them!" and then never return - or they just post, get scarred of having their absurd beliefs challenged, and RUN.

This is comedy to me because I used to do the same thing. It's like rewinding the tape and watching myself. The fear of becoming informed (losing ignorance and waking up to reality) is an absolutely terrible thing.


Well, when ones only skill is ducking reality, they oft times think they're an expert at it.


Get used to the drive-bys, median. The lemmings going off of cliffs thing is a myth, but not christians who do the same thing. They're for real. But they are unarmed. Well, to put it more accurately, their intellect is unloaded.
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2012, 09:11:44 PM »
Hey, I stuck around...and look what happened! LOL. This is something I believe (deep down) they all fear. Deep down (in their heart of hearts) they know their beliefs are bullshit. But they continue them due to fear of the unknown.
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Re: WWGHA just not thorough enough
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2013, 02:47:21 PM »
Since a mustard seed is a tiny inanimate object
seeds are not inanimate, otherwise we would call them "little bits of rock."

How can we argue with someone who does not know this?

If you believe that seeds are "little bits of rock." what else might you believe?
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