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I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« on: June 28, 2012, 12:02:47 AM »
I might be a guest on a local radio show. ;D
I have to talk to the producer...
I think the best way to do it is "jesus doesn't exist" type topic.
now I know that there are problems and inconsistencies with the bible.
I am asking for verses that I could use as ammo against those that call citing the bible as a reliable source.
I hope that old testament versus that are inconsistent with reality are posted.
I am not a biblical scholar is the reason I am asking for support.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 12:29:12 AM »
Why do you have these beliefs if you can't provide information to back it up? Why should we do it? Just pretend that you can't get any advice and can't go in there doing any research, just wing it and tell the real reason you don't consider the Bible reliable. In case you're bad at introspection, it's because it claims that magical things happened (water into wine, reanimations, heaven/hell, angels/devils, etc), which we just don't see in the world. If it smells, looks, and sounds like bullshit, it's probably bullshit.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 12:40:08 AM »
well I can wing it.
I was just hoping for more than people living in fish for 3 days as a way to reduce the bible to garbage.
I am not a biblical scholar, and I am sure schmucks will call in citing the bible.
it would be nice to cite some crap the bible has to offer.
that is all.
I can handle my own, this isn't about me handling my own,  this is about stupid shit the bible claims in the old testament.
if you don't know of any...it is okay... but I am sure somebody is going to call in and say some stupid shit citing the bible.
it can can go any direction so maybe I will wing it.
but blatant examples of stupidity are appreciated.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 12:48:56 AM »
I would cite the bible and heck maybe even the quran just to fill time in-between calls.
if it takes more research on my part to keep you off my back then you will wait a long time.
heck go play with the small fish barracuda.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 01:00:50 AM »
here is an obligation: stfu.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 03:02:26 AM »
Explain that anything from the bible itself cannot be used to prove the bible valid. Otherwise, I can claim that Harry Potter and Spiderman are both real. If they want to prove the bible is true, they must provide outside sources that corraborate it's claims. Hint, there are none, and in fact, plenty of historical documents and artifacts that dispute it's claims.
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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 07:33:03 AM »
yeah, see now that is what I need to articulate.
thanks joebbowers.
but given my nature I might not do it afterall, because: I can't articulate well.

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 04:34:52 AM »
A "Jesus doesn't exist" argument can be twisted enough to know that there were plenty of people with the name at the time of the "divine" one's existence. And then... the odds are he's real! (yeah, right, but that's what you'll hear.)

I would go somewhere more common: God Is Not Good.

The focus that people seem to have is on this deity's love, and individual love, for each one of us, if we only open our heart, yadda, yadda. Explain that this deity killed over 30 million people in one book, written by men, over centuries and then edited over and over again by more men of power, not your local farm boy.

When people (callers, etc.) claim "that was the OLD testament. Jesus Changed all that!" Then point them to Matthew 5:7-46. He explains to his disciples that he upholds the talmudic laws-- all 613 of them, and tells us that we must follow all of those to earn the true relationship with his father. (Ewww.)

Remind them that shrimp cocktail is just as horrid to Jesus as murder is, and also much worse than rape, as there are rules for marrying a rape victim who doesn't scream loud enough.

Guess you can tell, I'm anti-theist, and I still feel that those who hold a belief in a faith have to learn the text first. If they haven't, then they can't cal themselves a believer, christian, islam, worshipper or even fetishist. Show them how their lack of faithful knowledge only equals a lack of faith.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2012, 04:36:56 AM by IAmFirst »
2nd of all, if all you believe in is peer-reviewed papers, you won't go very far in life...

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 04:45:35 AM »
You could also bring up the whole ego-centric attitude of Yahweh by simply going to one of Douglas Adams' quotes. (Paraphrasing) - 50 billion galaxies with over 200 billion stars each, and this being is turned on by the smell of burnt bull flesh?

If you could freely travel, for eternity, to all of these stars, planets, etc., you'd be so bored of Earth after ten of Earth's minutes. :D
2nd of all, if all you believe in is peer-reviewed papers, you won't go very far in life...

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 07:14:52 AM »
they just did a show where the guest was saying god is not good type thing...
last night was belly dancers....
thank you for the suggestions.
yeah I don't believe in much...  'cept what I can see and what makes sense.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 04:29:46 PM »
ok so I have been calling in on this show every few days... maybe once a week...
last night they had what I thought was going to be an herbal medicine type person, turns out they were all up into meta-physics and souls and spirits...
basically woo..
about how all souls are one and then a part breaks off and that is our soul... or some crazy shit.. and how people interact with souls...
so I called in and proposed a philosophical question about when we get our soul...
my philosophical question went something like this:
when do we get souls?
at what interval in our development do we get souls.. I mean is it at the point when the sperm and egg join or is it later?
take for instance when a sperm and egg join into one cell that is called a zygote and then the zygote splits into two cells and that is an embryo.
and what can happen is that these two cells that make up the embryo can separate and form twins, identical twins...
and then just by chance these two embryos can further develop into to two identical fetuses and then in turn become babies after they are no longer connected to the mother by the umbilical cord...
but that isn't too complicated..
now lets go back to the zygote that split and has become an embryo and this embryo splits into two zygotes...
and then the two zygotes reform into a single zygote and then development occurs as expected and we end up with a baby...
but that isn't the complicated part either... that is just what happens sometimes..
here is were it gets complicated... the introduction of a chimera into the argument...
say you have two eggs fertilized by two different sperm and then these two zygotes that are not identical and have different dna join into a single zygote and this single zygote with two different sets of dna splits into an embryo...
I know this sounds unusual and it is but please don't discredit the science when there are already human chimeras living in the world.
there are people living TODAY that have two sets of dna in their body and I am not talking parasitic twins where one twin is a parasite or like a siamese twin to the other...
I am talking about people who are one being, a human being, and they are a human chimera.
human chimera have TWO DIFFERENT DNA COMPOSITIONS WHICH FORM THE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL HUMAN.
how many souls do they have and when did they get a soul and what does that mean for the rest of us that have souls?
what is the bridge between supernatural and natural? when do we get souls?
the response was " I wasn't aware of such a thing... I don't know about chimeras, I didn't know there was such a thing"...
and then the host... who seems to like me I guess... said something like well it would take me some research to really be able to speak to you about this issue..
and I was like " yeah it is mostly a philosophical question.."
and then I hung up, after we kinda laughed and giggled and I was invited to call back anytime...
so I listed after I hung up...
I called in the last 1/3 hour of the 2 hour show as I didn't want to ruin the fun... ;)
but after my interchange with the guest and host which lasted about 15 minutes the last 15 minutes of show was basically commercials and advertisements...
I got the impression the guest didn't have much more to say after that and that is why they ran commercials and ads for the remaining duration of the show...
anyways, I am posting this here so as maybe some of the readers here can critique my analysis of chimeras and human development and/or become aware of the facts of human chimeras.
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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 06:23:22 PM »
Are chimeras people with two different eye colors like David Bowie?
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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 06:27:25 PM »
Are chimeras people with two different eye colors like David Bowie?
from what I know...
two different eye colors may indeed be a genetic anomaly but that doesn't mean the person is a chimera.
if a chimera had two different eye colors that could mean that either eye shared the same DNA with some type or genetic anomaly that made each eye a different color OR either eye has different DNA and as a result the eye color is different.

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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 12:23:04 AM »
Wondering because a little adorable boy in my community has one brown eye and one green eye, very noticeable difference. So he may be a chimera. :?
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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 12:26:51 AM »
it would be totally cool IMO if he were a human chimera.
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Re: I might be on a local radio show that streams.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 01:38:50 PM »
it would be totally cool IMO if he were a human chimera.
 ;)

Well, he's a human, as far as I can tell. My daughter has babysat him and his sister. No signs of Martian antennae or cephalopod overlord tendencies have emerged as  of yet. But it's a military family, so there may be Area 51 sh!t going on there. :o
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