It's okay for god not to help - you say - because it gets people to him sooner. If you honestly and truly believe that, WHY do you try to help them live a little longer in this terrible world? Why not just cut ALL aid now, and speed them to heaven? Think how happy they will be! How can we dare deny them that? How can we even keep them from it for a day?
That is not what I said and you know it. God's heart breaks infinity times ours every time we lose a child or one of us is murdered or raped or molested,etc..
No. I DON'T know it Junebug. You said very clearly that
God is the cure for death, those children aren't dead they are somewhere else much more glorious than here. Saved from this world of GREED. They are with God.
(I note that when you responded you ensured this quote was removed, so I've put it back in).
So why on earth does god's heart break when someone dies? You've said that dying is NOT a bad thing to god - my heart never breaks over something I think is good.
(god) wants us to help each other and my point is that when we don't God is there to relieve that person of their suffering.
But again, why bother? If we do nothing, they die, god steps in, and straight off to eternal happiness. Are you honestly trying to tell me that another day of slightly-releived pain and hopelessness is BETTER than spending that day in heaven?
What you SEEM to be saying is that people need to suffer, because (in some fashion) this is a Good Thing for the people that help them. Me, I'm not that selfish. I'm prepared to take the hit myself, to not polish my soul that little bit, if by doing so I prevent some poor soul from reaching Heaven as soon as they can.
But let's assume your god's heart DOES break every time someone is raped, or murdered, or whatever. I find that very hard to believe. He is an omnipotent being, and if he didn't want those things to happen, they would not happen
. But as you point out, he DOES want them to happen - because if they didn't, people like you wouldn't get to be a liiiiitle bit better for helping them. So god allows those people to continue to suffer for YOUR benefit, Junebug. Like I say, I'm not that selfish to want people to suffer on my account.
I wonder....does your god in some way engineer suffering, so that others can help them? He certainly allows suffering to continue, so its not a big stretch to suggest that he maybe nudges some people into suffering. But either way, what you need to consider is this.
Your son suffered so that YOU could help him and reap the benefit. And this was good in your god's eyes.
Like I say - I'm not that selfish.