ahhh, I see now. Where are you in this picture? Obviously, by referencing this in your argument, you believe that children such as that need help... Are you doing everything, EVERYTHING you can to help them? I highly doubt it.... To have the ability to help a cause in which you consider important, but to not use that ability, but rather blame it on God, pretty compelling stuff.... You're a cruel and terrible person to say the least.
There are many, many issues in your posts that I'd like to address, but I'll concentrate on this one for now. The issue of the child in the photo is an example of what's long been called (by long, I mean many hundreds of years, perhaps many thousands) The Problem Of Evil
. In a nutshell, what this means is that 100's of millions of people the world over, in many different religions (certainly
1000's of different christian denominations) make the blanket statement that their god is all good, all knowing, and all powerful
- for shorthand, this is called an omnimax god
My first (this is very
important) question I'd be very happy to have you answer - do you believe god is all good, all knowing, and all powerful? Please keep your answer to this question in mind as I continue this post.
To continue, from the perspective of millions of nontheists (or humanists, or atheists, or freethinkers, as well as other non religious people), non-good things
happen all across the world every hour of every day (you might think of them as evil, or just bad, things). These are incidents like the child's picture referenced above (note: that is a nobel prize winning picture, the author of which recently committed suicide, perhaps due to all the pain he witnessed and could not cope with. It shows a young girl, who was trying to crawl
her way to a UN/Relief agency food truck. I believe she was about 8 years old at the time, and had spent her entire short life
surviving on less than 1/4 bowl of rice a day, if even that. Her and her mom were heading to the food truck, but her starving mother could not carry her anymore, and went ahead (only a few hundred yards) with the intention of bringing food back. The girl in this picture died
before her mom could get back. Even the photographer, after snapping this picture, broke with all his training not to interfere (and knowing, as we all do, that we can't fix everyone), and tried to get food to this starving girl. She died anyway, moments after the picture was taken).
(I keep several copies of this picture in my wallet, to remind me of what the christian god doesn't
To continue - it doesn't matter if any poster here isn't over there now feeding these children with whatever dollars they could bring, before they themselves became broke. It doesn't matter (for this argument called 'The Problem of Evil') because any - any
- omnimax god who (due to being all powerful, as the christians such as yourself believe) doesn't make sure this child got fed
is either Evil, or not all powerful. It doesn't matter because an all knowing god would know
that not everyone can help this girl, and so why
didn't He (capitalized on purpose) help her? Would this
be the action of an all loving, parent-like god
, to allow
this girl (as well as 10's of thousands like her, every fracking month
, who die never knowing a full stomach).
That picture, I hope, gets stuck in your mind (like it has mine for years), and eventually sinks in. Many bad things happen in the world that humans could never fix
, and aren't the least bit to blame for - earthquakes, floods, attack by animals, locusts eating their crops so many starve, etc) - the answer you tried to use doesn't work - it doesn't explain why this god of yours, so full of allgoodness, so full of power, so full of knowing all from the beginning of time to the end - why He allows this to occur
Once you parse the possible answers, there are only a few :
1. God is evil
2. God is uncaring
3. God is not
all good and all powerful and all knowing
4. God doesn't exist
This is only a sample of why many
(certainly not all) atheists say with a certainty
that the typical christian god - an omnimax god - does not
exist. 100% sure it doesn't exist.
Or, if it did, it's an evil
god who makes Hitler look like a humanitarian.
If it did, that child wouldn't have spent it's entire short life in agony to die in some muddy field, food for the vultures. Doesn't matter if heaven exists - what point could god have to punish
this child so, just to send it to heaven afterward? Why
have it born at all? Why not send it's soul (not that I believe in one mind you) straight to heaven? What lesson could it possibly learn that would be worth the pain? And the (also typical) answer 'my god works in mysterious ways' doesn't help either, that boils down to the same choices 1-3 above.
In closing for now - I'm 100% convinced god - as described
(when they bother to describe him/her/it at all, which most won't - like you - do) doesn't exist. It doesn't
More later, as I get the time (and energy).