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New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« on: May 17, 2012, 05:13:35 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/05/17/us/politics/super-pac-storyboard.html?ref=politics#/#12

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/05/17/romney-ricketts-republicans-run-from-ad-plan-using-rev-wright/

The ad plan proposed to use inflammatory remarks made by Rev. Wright, including a post-9/11 claim that America’s chickens were coming home to roost.  It lamented that voters “still aren’t ready to hate the President,” and proposed use of Wright to show people who “shaped the man.”


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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 05:18:42 PM »
This guy Ricketts is the founder of TDAmeritrade as well as owner of the Chicago Cubs.  He is Catholic and went to a very small Catholic High School (Lourdes) in Nebraska City, Ne.  I think he also cut some kids hair while in high school.  Anyhow, he is a billionaire.  What is it with these guys?  They have more money than they can ever spend yet they will pump millions into stuff like this just to make sure they make more.  Even if the majority has to suffer as a result.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 05:32:27 PM »
They are so insulated from the average person they can't imagine why everyone else doesn't think like they do. Mitt Romney, with his car elevators, $900 t-shirts and off-shore bank accounts. He reminds me of Czar Nicholas II, the Russian Emperor in 1916. He was so damn rich he gave away Faberge eggs as party favors to casual acquaintances.

Meanwhile 98% of the Russian population was subsisting on rotten turnips dug out of the frozen loam.

And we all know how that turned out for him and little Anastasia... :P
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 06:21:18 PM »
I keep thinking of Thurston Howell III and Lovey from Gilligan's Island except Romney is not funny.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 06:56:03 PM »
Wow.  That is a vicious ad full of distractions and smoke and mirrors. 

So their campaign strategy is based on the assumption that we as a nation have collective amnesia, and that we will forget that the financial collapse, which was sparked by predatory lending due to reduced accountability of private entities, happened under his predecessor's watch?  They are betting on the hope that we will forget that the source of the deficit is unprecedented tax cuts for the rich, compounded by two wars?  And they are hoping that a soundbite from someone who was part of his life years ago will frighten us about his beliefs and values?

Thanks for the details Nick.  I know nothing about this guy.  But I do know that the new TDAmeritrade Ad is on my attack list.  So this is just one more reason to hate this guy. 

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 07:49:06 PM »
No, it's racism, hate and more hate.

Count on the MEMORY of Americans?  Only if it's for the name of some creep on a 'reality TV show'.

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 03:47:00 PM »
Unfortunately the collective memory of the US is guided by what played most recently on the teevee. How quickly people have forgotten how good  the Clinton years were. Economically, Clinton and Gore fixed the mess that Reagan left, so the Repubs had to spend years focusing attention on the Monica scandal to distract everyone from the lack of real problems.

The Clinton universal health care plan reduced costs and increased coverage.  It would have meant the eventual end of the for-profit health industry, bringing the US into the modern world like all the other industiral countries. If it was allowed to succeed, it would have been so popular that nobody would ever vote for the repubs again.

"Hillarycare" scared the right wing so badly they had to discredit it and create their own alternative plan to preserve the power of the insurance industry. Their "me-too" health program expanded coverage to include the uninsured but without just putting everyone into the Medicare pool. That would have been too cheap and easy.

The repubs created a complicated scheme of vouchers with a mandate that everyone would have to buy private health insurance. (Sound familiar?) The mandate was all about "personal responsibility"--poor people should pay their own way instead of expecting the better-off insured people to pick up the costs. They managed to defeat Hillarycare and quietly shelved their plan.

Along comes "Obamacare", which includes all the stuff the repubs said they wanted. And guess what? They all vote against it because the insurance mandate is now "Obama's big socialist government telling you that you have to buy something you don't want".

Whatever happened to the mandate being about personal responsibility? Oh, yeah that's only trotted out by repubs who want to make poor and/or brown people feel bad.... &)
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 06:53:37 PM »
Aww!  Too bad there are consequences when you play politics.  Getting money for Wrigley Field renovations might be harder.

http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/2012/05/18/planned-attack-ad-on-obama-could-stall-wrigley-field-renovations/ao6kzoq/


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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 01:25:11 AM »
"Wright drove him out of Christianity, and into the Devil's religion of Islam! And, Obama listens to what Wright says 'cause it's the type of Christian/Muslim born from the womb of an atheist, and worships the atheist demon of Mohammad!" -- said by the Republican National Committee of FOX Noise, and in partnership with the NRA of Islam.

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 01:58:12 AM »
Aww!  Too bad there are consequences when you play politics.  Getting money for Wrigley Field renovations might be harder.

After this incident, I think the Ricketts family should pay 100% of the cost of the renovations, or sell the team to the city of Chicago for $1.00.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 03:02:55 AM »
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So their campaign strategy is based on the assumption that we as a nation have collective amnesia

Unfortunately, it's exactly what they do expect and there are people who do have this amnesia. Plus, people expect it to end quickly, when it doesn't? Well, they just blame the next person. And because the debt is still rising, your debt is not suddenly going to stop rising when you get into power and difficult cuts get made, but unfortunately, people don't see it that way.

The exact same thing is happening in the UK. The Labour government (who existed alongside Bush's administration) managed to raise the UK's debt from around 330billion all the way up to 1 trillion, effectively tripling the national debt. Now that we have a Coalition of the Conservatives and Lib Dems in power (though the Lib Dems are just yes men) Labour are pointing all the fingers, saying how they would have done better. I'm sorry, but you mean to say between 1997 and 2010 your party didn't think it'd be a good idea to look at the budget? To make cuts before we're up s**t-creek? No, you funded 2 wars instead and went on a spending spree.

Now because of this, the current government is making difficult cuts - maybe they haven't done the best possible job (I am sitting here as one of the MANY unemployed graduates in the UK) but at least they've decided to do something. I'd rather see people trying to get us out of the s**t than head us into the direction of Greece and as much as I dislike the conservatives here in the UK, I wouldn't trust the party who got us into this mess in the first place. It's no use blaming the world's banks either, because you know what your budget looks like, you know how much the country is in debt and you can see it rising.

But no political party will admit their failings or take responsibility for them. As far as I am concerned all the concerning parties are responsible, but instead it's a game of blame. That's what I hate about politics, it's all about pointing the finger and never looking in the mirror or even creating a discourse between the sides to grant the best possible solution that best benefits the people of the country. I see you guys in the US get that a lot too. Opposing parties seeking to make the opposition look bad rather than say, "hang on a minute, that's a good idea" or, "well, that's a good suggestion, but you must first consider this, this & this". Nope. Politicis is the Jerry Springer Show (or Jeremy Kyle for us Brits).

Unfortunately, the national debt for either of our countries is not a quick fix. This gives the opposition plenty of tools to manipulate people into backing them. Maybe Obama isn't the best man for the job and maybe he has his flaws, but then look at his opposition.

[edit] Wow that turned into a rant.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 06:00:19 AM »
A black man from Kenya with a Muslim name occupies The White House.

That's it, in a nutshell.


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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 07:01:01 AM »
A black man from Kenya with a Muslim name occupies The White House.

That's it, in a nutshell.

Well said.

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 09:57:33 AM »
     I find it interesting that most of the folks on this site seem so short sighted.  I think all would agree that this is to be the "thinking person's" site.  That there would be a strong desire to look at issues from as many sides as possible, yet the comments seem so one sided to a liberal/progressive slant.  It seems that you envision all "rich guys" as Thurston Howell III.  He was, at most, a two dimensional, fictional character. 
     If you won the Lotto jackpot, what would you do with it?  It is easy to be a philanthropist with quick cash.  Most lottery winners loose it all in less than 5 years.    If you had put in 8 to 10 years of getting up in the morning at 4 or 5 AM study and earn the degree that would enable you to wake up at 4 or 5 AM for the next twenty or thirty years or so working to provide for your family and your families' future would you think differently about the same amount of wealth, true?  Easy come - easy go.  Earned with precious blood, sweat, and tears wealth is viewed from a different perspective.
When the government says that you were going to have to give over half of all you are acquiring to to the government so that they can keep a lot, mis-spend it, then give some to other bureaucrats, who keep a bunch, and then give what's left  to the poverty pimps, who keep their cut, and finally give a pittance to some poor schlep who did not have the drive or ambition to go out and get it for themselves in a country where people from other countries, who can not even speak the language, become well off in 5 to 10 years, would that not be a crime?  Yes, it is called theft. 
     Just because the Guvmint does it, that just makes it worse.  They do it at the point of a gun.  If they want, on a caprice, they can take it all.  The USA is unique in all of man's history, which is less than 4500 years that you can prove.  Real freedom to pursue happiness (complete personal fulfillment) is possible to pursue here, and it starts with securing your own personal property.  This may seem idealistic, but tell that to those who died or were maimed in foreign wars to secure your freedoms and constitutional rights.
     Does anyone know who the Kulaks were?

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 11:19:59 AM »
     I find it interesting that most of the folks on this site seem so short sighted.  I think all would agree that this is to be the "thinking person's" site.  That there would be a strong desire to look at issues from as many sides as possible, yet the comments seem so one sided to a liberal/progressive slant.  It seems that you envision all "rich guys" as Thurston Howell III.  He was, at most, a two dimensional, fictional character. 

I know some "rich guys" and they aren't all like Mitt Romney. Some are True ChristiansTM and a few are atheists or just don't give a damn about religion. However, they all give a great damn about their money, regardless of whether they earned it, inherited it or stole it.

Currently, anyone who doesn't think like Newt Gingrich/Rick Santorum/Grover Norquist is an idiotic liberal-socialist pinko commie, while in reality their line of thinking is so far to the right that their positions are unrecognizable by many who have been life-long conservatives. About the only liberal thing Obama has done is achieve the end of DADT, pushed through Romneycare and spoke out in favor of gays and gay marriage. Beyond that, he has remained in Afghanistan (even adding troops), continued the gulags of Gitmo, commissioned more drones, shot Somali pirates, killed Osama bin Laden, not raised any income taxes, issued more oil drilling permits and enforced zero growth in government spending ... sheeesh ... is this not conservative enough for everyone? I really don't know how to make him more conservative except to bleach him white, make him eat hot dogs and apple pie and change his name to Jim Smith.


When the government says that you were going to have to give over half of all you are acquiring to to the government so that they can keep a lot, mis-spend it, then give some to other bureaucrats, who keep a bunch, and then give what's left  to the poverty pimps, who keep their cut, and finally give a pittance to some poor schlep who did not have the drive or ambition to go out and get it for themselves in a country where people from other countries, who can not even speak the language, become well off in 5 to 10 years, would that not be a crime?  Yes, it is called theft.

So, you are essentially saying that unless you are poor, the only way to be "rich" is to blow it all on cars, homes, hookers and cocaine? You are equating a tax to your government as giving money to a ruthless, immoral pimp.

Our taxes go to pay for a plethora of benefits: roads, bridges, schools, parks, police, fireman, EMTs, public hospitals (as well as some privately chartered ones), aid to the indigent (parents, children, grandparents) for food, clothing, education and healthcare, aid for chronic, catastrophic illnesses such as kidney failure, organ transplants and mental illnesses, establishment and monitoring of water supplies, air quality, transportation safety, food safety, regulation of airwaves for the public benefit ... etc, etc, etc.   <-- None of these items would be provided by "rich guys" unless it benefitted them personally. The taxation system attempts to ensure that all will benefit in some way instead of just a few benefitting by the millions or billions of wealth that they could otherwise accrue.

I have seen government programs and assistance do good work, especially to ensure that we don't return to a feudalistic society in which the little people are enslaved by the rich to do their beck and call. Of course, perhaps you like 17-18th century England and France. Neither the British nor the French wish to return to that type of society.

     Just because the Guvmint does it, that just makes it worse.  They do it at the point of a gun. 

And you believe the Koch Brothers just drive around America handing out $1000 to each person they see because they just naturally charitable like that? At the end of which gun barrel shall work be done?  The government in which we all participate, or The Waltons? The Kochs? Carlos Slim?

When wealth and power amass together, the most definitely do so at the point of a gun.


If they want, on a caprice, they can take it all.  The USA is unique in all of man's history, which is less than 4500 years that you can prove.

Um, you don't wish to recognize other democracies in the world because you think they are what? Communists? Socialists? Not societies in which people vote and agree on how to conduct internal affairs? Most of Europe would be quite angry that you haven't recognized their ability to engage in civil, democratic, forward-thinking societies that share in the wealth and protect their citizens from personal or natural catastrophes.

Also, don't relish the uniqueness of the history of the United States. We started off as a country that nearly dedicated itself to the eradication of native Americans, recognized the enslavement and/or ownership and servitude of others, and didn't give every adult the right to vote, among other things.

Real freedom to pursue happiness (complete personal fulfillment) is possible to pursue here, and it starts with securing your own personal property.

Define "real freedom".   What is that, exactly? Until you define it, we can't have a meaningful discussion on that issue.


  This may seem idealistic, but tell that to those who died or were maimed in foreign wars to secure your freedoms and constitutional rights.

Tell what exactly?

     Does anyone know who the Kulaks were?

I can lookup and read anything on Wikipedia. What's your point?



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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 11:45:58 AM »
Welcome to the forums, Dken. 

I must say that I'm a little taken aback by someone who posts for the first time in an online community, and in the very first sentence finds a way to insult "most of the folks" on the site, based on a couple of random and isolated statement.  You appear to be attempting to establish yourself as intellectually superior to the majority of members here.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out. 


 
     When the government says that you were going to have to give over half of all you are acquiring to to the government so that they can keep a lot, mis-spend it, then give some to other bureaucrats, who keep a bunch, and then give what's left  to the poverty pimps, who keep their cut, and finally give a pittance to some poor schlep who did not have the drive or ambition to go out and get it for themselves in a country where people from other countries, who can not even speak the language, become well off in 5 to 10 years, would that not be a crime?  Yes, it is called theft. 


I look forward to hearing more about your economic theories.  I am especially curious to hear you offer examples of citizens who are asked to give "over half" of all they are acquiring to the government.  I am not familiar with any sector of society that is asked to pay that sort of a tax rate.  And those in the higher income brackets have many opportunities to shelter income, depreciate investments on paper, and pay a significantly lower tax rate on their total income than most very low income familes. 

Or do I misunderstand completely?  Is this all about lottery winners? 

Finally, I'm sure that many of us look forward to hearing about your beliefs concerning supernatural dieties.  I am off to the park with my little one, so I won't be around until later to read your responses. 
   
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2012, 12:11:47 PM »
Welcome DKEN

I assume that you would agree that the world isn't fair.

The Republicans want to keep it that way.

So I'm against them, most of the time. Get used to it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »
What a way for an "exceptional" country to act.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2012, 02:00:16 PM »
So DKEN
   Looking over the history of the United States of America, which many think is the greatest form of government humanity has yet devised, I suppose you would say that the freedoms granted by the government to citizens (business) is the reason for this success of the U.S.  Are there other reasons for the success of the U.S. system?   

What about these freedoms led to the invention of electricity, the advances in agriculture, the manufacturing of the automobile, the computer, the superiority of the military?  It seems that, while freedoms allowed by the U.S . form of government have led to business success, also society’s working together (read – government, taxes, etc. ) have led to successes in space exploration, medicine, the highway system, education (until now, huh?) better protection of needed resources – do you disagree?

Probably, the answer to progressive vs conservative reasons for success, is somewhere in the middle, much to the dismay of both extremes, yes?

But I guess the real question is for the future – what are we going to do about the U.S. government – shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub, as Norquist says.  Is that what you also think will work best?  Do you think, as some conservative extremists, that Obama letting the market totally drive the Wall Street fiasco, with banks collapsing, and no government intervention, would have solved the problem?  I do not.

I think, once again the middle is probably the best – in order to pay the bills, reducing spending but reducing taxes doesn’t seem quite logical – how about a 1% federal cut across the board, including the Dept. of Defence, while removing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and also increasing the taxes for the rest of us.  Once the U.S. pays for these wars, it can adjust again – maybe another 1% spending cut if the economy can handle it. 

What are your views on education?  Do you think the U.S. is slipping in education because of the government, and private industry can not only improve that, but set an example for the world.  I’m not so sure, but many times other countries have better ideas (health care? – lets not get started), and for some reason conservative thought rejects studying other approaches.

I think current conservative thought is more against Obama than for the country.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2012, 05:35:26 PM »
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The USA is unique in all of man's history, which is less than 4500 years that you can prove.  Real freedom to pursue happiness (complete personal fulfillment) is possible to pursue here, and it starts with securing your own personal property.


Every country is unique in human history in some way.

In what way are americans exclusively able to pursue complete personal fulfillment? What is the definition of complete personal fulfillment?

You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 05:48:53 PM »
          Easy come - easy go.  Earned with precious blood, sweat, and tears wealth is viewed from a different perspective.
Yes! That is why rich people prefer to gamble with other people's money-- and get bailed out by the taxpayers with they lose it all.
 
Real freedom to pursue happiness (complete personal fulfillment) is possible to pursue here, and it starts with securing your own personal property.  This may seem idealistic, but tell that to those who died or were maimed in foreign wars to secure your freedoms and constitutional rights.   

Would be nice if the real freedom to pursue happiness included the right to see a doctor or go to the hospital when you get sick. Like it is in communist Japan, France, Sweden, Germany and you know, wealthy places like Costa Rica. Kinda hard to secure your own personal property when you have to sell everything you own due to medical bills.

Incidentally, one of my students told me her boyfriend lost his right arm after being shot in Afghanistan this past week. I told her that was great news, because, as a result of his maiming,  I now have even more freedoms and constitutional rights. (Not.)
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2012, 07:20:54 PM »
 
     If you won the Lotto jackpot, what would you do with it?  It is easy to be a philanthropist with quick cash.  Most lottery winners loose it all in less than 5 years.    If you had put in 8 to 10 years of getting up in the morning at 4 or 5 AM study and earn the degree that would enable you to wake up at 4 or 5 AM for the next twenty or thirty years or so working to provide for your family and your families' future would you think differently about the same amount of wealth, true?  Easy come - easy go.

Or you could wait for your old man to kick the bucket and inherit the lot.

Are you rich? Or are you one of these silly buggers who hasn't got a pot to piss in yet frets about how much tax billionaires are paying.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2012, 12:27:35 AM »
Have you noticed that in some instances we are like a nest of hornets who have been disturbed?  We pounce on offenders with a stinging fury. Especially those offenders who, as Quesi says, presume to have superior intellectual (or moral) capacity. I am rather proud that we are so outspoken, so imminently capable, and so quick to pick up the gauntlet.


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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2012, 11:46:13 AM »
  It seems that you envision all "rich guys" as Thurston Howell III.  He was, at most, a two dimensional, fictional character. 

That's one more dimension than Mitt Romney.

When the government says ...Yes, it is called theft. 

Apparently your perspective is government - even a democratically elected one - is an abject failure on all levels.  I don't see it that way.  Is there anything at all that you think the government does well or at least, not with total incompetence?  Do you understand what "government" is supposed to be for?  Do you understand the concept of a "country"?


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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2012, 02:10:01 PM »
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2012, 08:36:30 PM »
When the government says ...Yes, it is called theft. 

Apparently your perspective is government - even a democratically elected one - is an abject failure on all levels.  I don't see it that way.  Is there anything at all that you think the government does well or at least, not with total incompetence?  Do you understand what "government" is supposed to be for?  Do you understand the concept of a "country"?

Obviously, he won't answer that question. Worse, he can't answer that question because doing so would require him to admit that there is something functional about government and violate the absolutist meme he subscribes to. First, he is likely to enjoy a strong defense, much of which he cannot grasp is done by government -- he probably just thinks it stands on its own. Second, he can't admit that without the government he abhors, he wouldn't have the ability to complain about the government itself. Third, without the government we have had for 200+ years, he would likely be speaking Spanish at this time, and we know how those anti-government types love Spanish-speakers ...

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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2012, 11:25:57 PM »
So their campaign strategy is based on the assumption that we as a nation have collective amnesia, and that we will forget that the financial collapse, which was sparked by predatory lending due to reduced accountability of private entities, happened under his predecessor's watch?  They are betting on the hope that we will forget that the source of the deficit is unprecedented tax cuts for the rich, compounded by two wars?  And they are hoping that a soundbite from someone who was part of his life years ago will frighten us about his beliefs and values?
Some would suggest that most of this stuff was forgotten by the majority of people after 6 months..
They are banking on advertising works, pumping vast amounts of money into repetition, beating a message into people's brains, which is 'obama bad', 'romney good'.  Then voting happens..

It doesn't matter the facts.  It matters what people's opinions are about the two groups.  And since these two groups are so cloudy right now, it's difficult to say which way it will go.  Also, there's the die-hard republicans out there that will vote republican no matter who it is.  Then, there's the people that idolize the rich and famous.  This is an election of money vs. rationality.  My bet is the money will win.

Which would mean it would then be time for me to 'sit down, shut up.' - and take whatever's coming until my slow and painful death..  But I'll be in good company - like grandparents and people that returned from war or hit by a bus or whatever.  Actually, that's my favorite type of company.  Bring it on, republican assholes!!!
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2012, 08:05:30 AM »
facts don't matter a whole lot because most people ignore them. Politics is really another sport where people just root for a team

Ever hear of the Blues and Greens?  Lots of good links there jeremy.
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Re: New Ad Campaign: "The Defeat Of Barrack Obama"
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2012, 08:36:43 AM »
We have institutionalized gang warfare.

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