I don't agree that I don't get to know people.
Yeah, that's not all that useful in communication unless you combine it with the other thing I mentioned with it there.
Was that the goal? Or was a rational discussion the goal? You're confusing me. Be consistent.
Sure its a rational goal, to help him understand where he is in error.
I could interpret this as an attempt on your part to be deliberately disingenuous. Or I could interpret it as a simple misreading. To which interpretation would you respond better?
That's the implication.
" Not my implication
, of course, because you don't have the factual backing to actually accuse me of it. Not your interpretation
, of course, because that would mean taking responsibility for you thoughts. Instead it's something metaphysical, something supernatural, something outside of time
- The Implication!tm
Where does The Implicationtm
exist? How did it come to be? What relationship does it have to the natural world? Silly questions for the closed-minded, those...
Seriously, Omen, don't use this kind of weaseling bullshit. You interpreted me as implying that you should totally disengage out of fear of an instance of failure. When asked why, you say it's "The Implicationtm
". That's a dodge.
(as a side-note, perhaps I'm being irrational in trying to reason with you in this manner...I don't know)
You're not providing a reason to not engage, other than JST not possess the capacity to understand. IE Due to intelligence, education, sanity etc.
Okay. Misinterpretation, albeit a reasonable one. Still doesn't align with the text of what you're trying to clarify, but w/e. That is not even one of
the reasons to change goals here. Understanding doesn't happen equally under all conditions. If you want it to happen, then you should try to find conditions that are amenable to it. I havn't seen you even entertain that idea on here before. Perhaps I'm in error on that point; I stand to be corrected.
I didn't claim all humans are rational, but I would disagree that all theists are crazy or stupid.
There you go back to that. Why would you bring in "crazy/stupid" again, for no reason? It's not an accurate interpretation. I already explained that to you. So what's your excuse?
I'm still not seeing anything from you other than asking me not to respond as fast and often.
Then I would suggest actually reading the posts to which you are supposedly responding.
Are you claiming the inverse of what I've done to JST, not ask people to support their own claims or not point out when they have not?
...how would that...be...a claim? Oh fuck it, I'm done with expecting coherent grammar. Yes, Omen, that is
what I'm suggesting...sort of. I'm suggesting that it not be the first response. I'm suggesting that it's a lot less effective from someone who's just an enemy than it is from someone with whom one has a rapport. What is the nature of the rapport you built with Jst before holding his feet to the fire?