So what would cut it for me? Well, an answer would be favourite. Like I've said in another thread, something like "hey god, are you there?" "yes I am" "Cool - let's talk" "Okay then".
You know - the exact same way that you would make yourself known if someone was trying to open conversation with you. If you are a loving god who sincerely wants a relationship with someone, sincerely wants them to know you....then you would be clear and open and direct about it. You'd answer when someone speaks, not hide behind a cryptic "maybe-message".
So what you're saying here is that you demand God meet you on your terms, and your terms only?
Your god can choose to make himself clear to me, or he can choose not to. It's entirely down to him whether he decides to do that or not, as it is with any person I might try to contact.
However, if everyone who talks about that god is also telling me about how much he loves me, how much he wants to get to know me, how much he deeply wants me to be saved......then I find it very difficult to reconclie those two points of view. Someone who really wants me to know them....but who won't answer me in a way I can understand when I ask? THAT is where I have the issue, with the complete disconnect between those two points of view.
Of course, if your god DOESN'T want to know me, DOESN'T really want a relationship with me, then his decision not to answer me in a way I can recognise and understand is quite reasonable. Just tell me that god doesn't really care about me or want to know me or want me to be saved or want me to find him, and I'll be quite content. It'll save me a lot of time as well, as I can stop asking.
I'm also intrigued as to why you are claiming I "demand" anything. I'm asking god if he wants to talk to me. If he doesn't, I'm not going to throw a paddy - I'll just say "fine", and walk away. He doesn't want to reply, that's entirely his perogative. But I WILL get annoyed with the next True Believer who says "why don't you just ask god, he really wants to know you!"
Think about it. We're talking about God, who spoke the universe into being...who owes you nothing. And you would say to God...you do it myway.
Yes. For one thing, this god apparently brought the world into being for me to have dominion over, and for me to enjoy. I'm not an afterthought for creation, I'm the reason
for creation....which sounds big-headed, but I think you know what I mean! Which all means that I'm fairly high on his list.
And also, of course, as a being of limitless power and resource, its not like I am taking him away from something by asking him to respond to me. He's everywhere, at all times (or so I understand).
Final point, which relates to the above: compared to this god, I have very little understanding or ability or resources, very little options when it comes to communicating. I believe it is therefore incumbent on the person with the greatest resource and ability to conform to the needs of the lesser. If someone is paralysed, and can communicate only by blinking.....and does that as best they can.....would it be reasonable for the healthy person to say "well, if they can't be bothered to talk to me at my house, why should I stoop down to their level?"
Even in normal, everyday life, is it not better to discover things by searching?
Depends on what the thing is. Remember that your god is only one of tens of thousands there might be. Even if I tried to contact one god a day, it would take me most of a lifetime to get round to them all. Why on earth would I spend a vastly disproportionate amount of time trying to make contact with one particular god, especially when every attempt I make meets with failure?
Please understand, I have no more reason to believe in your god than any other one, so all I am after at the moment is the "making contact" part so that I have some reason to think that a more in-depth search would have some merit. But when every overture I make is met with silence, what possible reason would I have to try again (and again, and again), rather than move on to the next possible god on my list?