I appreciate the effort you have given in your last couple posts. They are almost helpful to me. I will explain "almost toward the end of this post".Parkingplaces:
I appreciate your post in that I can actually understand what you are saying. No I don't think evolution takes place in one generation and what you say sounds reasonable.
I do not disagree that evolution takes place. I can use your example of a virus. I don't doubt that a virus can evolve or mutate and does. But it's still a virus is what I can't get out of my head.Screwtape
Okay. I had to find if there were any that I would agree with. I guess I am uniqely gifted in my ability to look beyond someone's words and get the meaning they were trying to put forth. But disproving them is not far from the truth at least to me. I realize I am the most ignorant of fools, but that's all I've got to work with. But just to let you know my precess.....
For me there was certain criteria that must be met for the interpretation to be correct.
1. It must not contradict itself.
2. It must be logical. I know......the entire Bible is illogical but bare with me.
3. It must be reasonable.
4. It must be knowledgable
Example: If people die and immediately go to heaven or hell then why is there a resurrection at the end for Judgement Day. Obviously they would have already been judged. So why judge them again? If Lazarus was in heaven for three days then why was resurrecting him a service to him?
This obviously is illogical and contradictory. So since most christians roughly believe this way and will only address the question as, "I'll ask God when I get there. It's probably not good that you pose these questions", the field of possibilities greatly narrow. Although these are not the only illogical contradictions common in christendom.
I believe that's pretty much the the sum of it.
there are somewhere around 38,000 denominations of xianity. According to wikipedia, there are about 7.6 million jws. Are you telling me that of all the people who have studied the bible, and of all the people on the planet, just this tiny slim majority got it "right"? We pejoratively call that a "magic decoder ring".
My logic was quite the opposite. Surely you know the Bible says "narrow is the road leading off into life and few are those traveling on it," and "broad is the road leading off into desctruction and many are those traveling on it," (Please note word destruction and not hell).
But apart from what the Bible says, I am scared to think of how many different Bible interpretations exist and the number of denominations that exist is staggering. So here was my process.......1. They can't all be correct. 2. Some must be closer than others. 3. Some must be the closest. Would you expect this to be a majority? I don't.
To address you next two points is not within the scope of this post.Omen
I admit that 22 million is a lot, but that's small compared to the numbers in the second link.
Where is the link supporting your last statement?Alzael
The second link is to a news page. Now I know I should have learned by now not to trust the new but my intention was not to deceive.
Why does the link to the evolution page have nothing to do with evolution? I didn't check the references it sited. Did you check them and find them to be false?Seppuku
I will have to check the other thread.HAL
I agree. Please lock the thread. I will start a new thread.Asmoday
I can't state with certainty with verifying but I don't believe all the authors had all the scriptures available to them at the time of writing. Regardless, this is not proof in itself, but just a small strand of evidence.12 Monkeys
I've addressed this above.
I wish to withdraw from the debate with Lucifer. In another thread, "Being nice to theists", or something of the sort, he basically argued it is impossible to be nice. A poster recommended the discussions be made without attacking the character of the theist. The poster was quickly torn to pieces. I was not surprised to see his karmaat -49.
Watch this, I'm about to use that unique gift again. What it really boils down to is respect. This is what the poster wanted you to show. But according to the debate that ensued it is impossible for Lucifer, and others here to show respect. In fact, it seems that many go out of their way to be just the opposite. Reading his post immediately disarmed me personally. So there is evidence supporting his claim that you CAN do it.
I stated in my introduction that I am not highly educated. I am a high school graduate with some technical training. In an effort to show off your education your language does not convey your thoughts properly and I know you are very well aware of this. I'm sure it makes you feel good about yourself but beyond that it is pointless. The same goes for your ability to grasp what I am saying. Your attitude does not affect me in any emotional way. I do marvel at your intelligence and education on occasion, but most of the time I marvel at your utter lack of wisdom and I wonder how intelligence and wisdom can be so far removed from each other. I must form a hypothesis. Could any of you help me with that?
All of you have not displayed this behavior only the majority. So please speak in layman's terms. I've even seen Steven Hawking do this on a documentary series about how the universe works. So I know you can do it. The layout of this site suggested I might be, at least somewhat, welcome here. If I am not then please tell me so and I will leave. If I am then I expect to be shown some respect or we have nothing to discuss.
Disclaimer: I am not proof reading this post.