There are plenty of exorcisms on Youtube. Yes some are real and others are not. No matter the proof you will not believe what you see unless you experience it yourself. That is the fact and no one can refute your skepticism has blinded your ability to see things in a different light. It has to be a personal experience which you refuse to have. Even people on this forum, if you were to experience it, would like the time of Jesus not accept Him. So ultimately you and I are wasting our time debating something you refuse to accept as truth and I refuse to let go of the truth. Lord I pray for the hardened hearts and ask you to let them see truth. Bind the things not of you and release them long enough to make the choice of truth.
I love that science can continually be wrong with evidence, but it is accepted as truth.
Nathan, you do not know me, so please do not try to assume things about me.
In the court of law, if you wanted to prosecute somebody for murder, do they just need 2 people to say, "yeah, I saw him do it"? What if the witnesses were mistaken? What if they were bearing false witness? What if their testimony says things this man did not do? Would the man still be guilty of the crime? Should I just go ahead and believe these two witnesses? Unfortunately, there are courts out there that will accept even LESS than that and personally, I find it truly sickening. See West Memphis 3 - 3 guys put to death row for murder, no witnesses, no real evidence. Luckily, they never actually got the death penalty and after a very long period of protests they were eventually freed - this is after over 20 years - 20 years of their lives wasted because they were wrongly imprisoned. The issue with the court of law is that it's not infallible. They get it wrong. People can be unfairly punished and it's one reason the death penalty in the UK was eventually abolished.
But allow me to put this in another light. How would you feel if the 'possessed' guy you visited was in fact a paranoid schizophrenic? What if this exorcism stuff you're pumping into his head just worsened his condition, made him more paranoid, had him having these delusions of things that really weren't there and found himself lashing out on people violently? What if he deteriorated to a point where he managed to kill somebody? How would he feel then. Or what if in one of your exorcisms things just got too far and it ends in a fatality? It happens. So what then? Would you be happy being charged for manslaughter? Because in the court of law that's what happens. Some of the victims have even been children. What if the 'evidence' showed that actually your 'demonically possessed man' was actually suffering from severe mental problems you failed to address and what if you got charged for abuse because of it? As these mental problems could have been addressed when he showed early signs. Would you be happy knowing you've caused any of those things because you were so adamant that it was a demon?
This is the wonderful thing about science (which you claim to be wrong, but you say that typing from what is presumably a computer) is that it's able to take data people have gathered and learn everything they're able to from it and apply it to how we understand the world. It is scrutinised, theories are made and they're tested and tested and tested. We've learned that pestilence is bacteria nor demons and witches, we've learned that the earth is round and orbits the sun, we've learned how to combat bacteria, we've learned that remedies with 'magical' properties do not cure people, we've learned that taken somebody to an altar and have holy water splashed on them and praying to God doesn't save them from illnesses, we've gone from an age where the common cold could kill you to when it's just a minor inconvenience thanks to science and get this...part of how we fight harmful bacteria is based off of the theory of evolution - because certain strains of a virus can and DO evolve. That's why we have to research the medicines and combat any new strains that evolve. We've had so many things religious folks have so ADAMANTLY claimed to be undeniable true to be found untrue through the scientific methodology. Though, many religious folk deny the inconvenient parts of science as t challenges what they want to believe.
Now, from reading your testimonies, I came up with two reasonable explanations as to what's happening. I don't out right refuse to believe or I'm just arrogant about my own views. If demons ARE real, I so want to know about it. Why? Well, I don't want to be possessed and find that when I come to I've butchered my family. But instead of accepting the possibility that there is a scientific explanation for this, ironically, you so arrogantly claim your testimony to by undeniable and that we're simply blind.
I'm sorry, but with the time you hand with this guy, you've been given amble opportunity to gather the data you need to have us questions our own views on this. As somebody said, why didn't you film it, take lots of and lots of picture, try and document everything you can, phone the doctor (bring him in on it), get a journalist in, call the police, get an ambulance, get every kind of person in your local area who good give a professional opinion, who could document and report what they witnessed. However, all we can do is take your word for it. At least people on YouTube have videos, whilst these videos are very difficult to verify, but then I'm gullible to suddenly believe a video that only
looks convincing. There's plenty of 'convincing' videos of supernatural things that have been successfully debunked.
So try to see it from our perspective. There's nothing special about anybody's so-called "evidence" and people claims that distinguish them from fact of fiction. You might as well be telling us Bigfoot is real and so's the Loch Ness monster.
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