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EV:
I noted mention of the OT prophecies in this threa, I'd like to point out briefly a very amusing flaw with the prophecies in the old testament. Isaiah 7:14 is a very famous and widely quoted prediction of Christ's coming.
Nobody really cares to read the rest of the prophecy, which happily states that if Jesus was born, then the entire world would become covered in thorns, Jesus would shave the head of the King of Assyria with a hired razor, that everyone from then on would only ever eat curds and honey, and that everyone would eat the flesh of their right hand.
None of that happened. Why would God need to hire a razor? Surely He'd just create one...
From this prophecy being unfulfilled, we can deduce that since the Bible's prophecies have not all been fulfilled, Jesus was NOT the son of God, and that his teachings were irrelevant. So this in effect cancels your entire argument Co.inkadink.
Hatter23:
You CoInk states he is open to evidence. Evidence seems to suggest he is absolutely completely and utterly not. His loop de loop magic arguments about Judas's death, only knowing standard apologist nonsense, and avoiding of tough questions all show this.
Graybeard:
--- Quote from: Co.Inkadink on April 13, 2012, 02:25:34 PM ---God punishes people collectively. Maybe it is primitive and uncivilized but that's the way it was done.
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Primitive and confusing:
Exodus 20:5-6, I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
(Ezekiel 18:20) - "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."
I can't help thinking of North Korea...
nogodsforme:
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Alzael, perhaps I'm missing something but when a typical theist comes here, they are confronted with several posts per thread.
The posts in the thread are walls of text.
I think, its unrealistic to expect any human with a life to reply to all those texts. Certainly, if I were in his place and right now I don't have a life, I'd only respond to a few of them.
I was just trying to respond to one of these posts, Velkyn's. A careful response would take far too much time.
Now to be far, perhaps walls of text begat walls of text; i.e., the OPs may not have been short either.
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I think there is a real difference between 1) well thought out, carefully crafted, original, on-point "walls of text" that are just long responses, and 2) cut 'n paste walls 'o text from some apologist website, or even worse, 3) the unedited, rambling, grammatically incorrect, free-floating stream-of-unconsciousness walls of text that we get from some people. Like wordybird of a few days ago.
We just like to see people put some thought and time into their responses. Even if a reply is short, it should show evidence of a thought process. I try not to insult anyone by cutting and pasting from a website, or throwing up something long, rambling and barely related when they had written me something careful and original. (Obvious snark excepted.)
The problem is, we often get theists who really don't understand what they believe. (If they understood it, they might not believe it...) And they cannot admit that they just don't have a good answer to our questions. So they get short and snippy, or cut 'n paste from something they think sounds smart, or they go nuts on us with the rambling.
So, theists, if you can't think of a response, just say so. If you don't know something, just say so. It's okay not to know something. But if you b.s. us, or just disappear when you think you are losing the argument, we get pissed off.
velkyn:
so, Coink, why haven' t you healed anyone yet? I've asked this question repeatedly and you've avoided answering it. Now we get more lies about AiG having "good" arguments, and excuses on why you can't actually be bothered to answer questions. Well, coink, if it's now suddenly so hard to answer everyone's quetions, ask for a one-on-one discussion. If you wont' take that, then it is more than obvious that you have no intention of listening to anyone about how your claims fail, but only want ot use the forum to post links to already refuted Christians lies.
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