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Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« on: April 02, 2012, 03:30:20 AM »
As we all know, a lot of christians are always whining that "non-believers are going to destroy the world"[1] and stuff like that. However, according to Revelation, that's YHWH's plan. Why do christians fight it? Every time there's an atheist trying to uphold the separation of church and state in the USA, there's a thousand theists whining about it. Every time there's an atheist trying to push for bigger and better scientific experiments (such as the LHC), there's a thousand theists whining that it's going to destroy the world (even though they know nothing about the subject).

Tell me, who's really following/helping YHWH's plan here? Is it you, the believers who are trying to stop it? Or us, who are "trying to bring about the end of the world"[2]?

EDIT: If you really want to help, let us handle things. We'll push for equal rights and all that stuff that's going to "destroy the world". You don't have to do anything.
 1. You know, with all that education and scientific development and equal rights... but I digress.
 2. Just for the sake of argument assume this to be true.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 03:45:10 AM »
I don't personally know any Christians who are concerned about the end of the world except for worrying that friends and family aren't part of God's kingdom. Personally I worry very little about such big things...I'd much rather waste my energy worrying about how my football team is doing. But i'm getting better at that too.

The world won't end until God decides to end it.

Which reminds me of the rainbow...and a question my wife asked on Friday: why/how does a rainbow appear as it does? Any ideas? Sorry Lucifer, I'll ask this on the science thread.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 03:48:38 AM »
The world won't end until God decides to end it.

If you can convince your theists buddies of that, I'll give you a very big gift.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 04:04:29 AM »

If you can convince your theists buddies of that, I'll give you a very big gift.

Can I choose it?

I want you to stalk Christiano Ronaldo, kidnap him, drug him, take him to the plastic surgeon and get his sulkly face removed permanently.

Assuming he still spends any time in Portugal, of course.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 04:06:08 AM »
Can I choose it?

Nope. It's a surprise. Also your choice is impossible.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 04:08:47 AM »
I'll say it's impossible. He even looks slightly sulky when he scores freak goals.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2012, 05:01:18 AM »
   why/how does a rainbow appear as it does? Any ideas? 
I'm hoping that wasn't a serious question, but if it was.
These should explain it, for you.




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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 05:14:51 AM »
It was a serious question...not about the appearance of the rainbow per se, but the shape it took.

And what I was able to follow of the videos you posted made some sense, although I just looked at snippets.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 10:04:20 AM »
It was a serious question...not about the appearance of the rainbow per se, but the shape it took.

And what I was able to follow of the videos you posted made some sense, although I just looked at snippets.


"The Magic of Reality: How we know what's really true"--Richard Dawkins

The above book contains a thorough explanation of all that you need to know about a rainbow.


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The world won't end until God decides to end it.

Since you have no idea of the truth of what you're stating there, it's probably a safer bet and a less embarrassing statement if you would say that we know with great certainty that the sun, unknown to itself, has a surefire plan to end the material world in about 5 Billion years. That is of course, if some other natural cosmological event doesn't do it first.

I can imagine your disappointment with that knowledge though, as I'm sure that you and many others were really believing and looking forward to, with great anticipation, riding a war horse in the clouds and wielding a throatslitting sword in a messy bloodbath with king jesus as your fearless leader............

^^^You gotta wonder though about the method of battle, transport, and weapons ?

Jesus:"Here lets use these swords and horses at Armageddon !!"
Saint:"What!? jesus have you not seen modern weapons!? They're lethal and quite scary my Lord !!
Jesus:"Shut up !! It makes for a good traditional story, so get on your horse !!
 

The universe is amazing, but it is still a dangerous and violent place.....and you've allowed yourself to fall madly in love with an idea that adds its own dangers to us and therefore exacerbates that fact further for us here on earth......perfect--way to go  ;)
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 10:23:23 AM »
I don't personally know any Christians who are concerned about the end of the world except for worrying that friends and family aren't part of God's kingdom. Personally I worry very little about such big things...I'd much rather waste my energy worrying about how my football team is doing. But i'm getting better at that too.

well, considering that your god has intentionally damned some people per its supposed magic book,  these Christians should be happy and accepting that their friends and family are damned.  It's god's will, yes ? and that's to be accepted without question? 

and for someone who supposedly has questions from his wife that he bothers to mention here, you sure seem intent on remaining ignorant, only bothering to look at "snippets".   And to find answer to questions yourself, you can use search engines and keywords.  You can use Google, for instance and type "rainbow cause" in the search box and you will get answers. 
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 11:31:40 AM »
and for someone who supposedly has questions from his wife that he bothers to mention here, you sure seem intent on remaining ignorant, only bothering to look at "snippets".   And to find answer to questions yourself, you can use search engines and keywords.  You can use Google, for instance and type "rainbow cause" in the search box and you will get answers.

(sticking fingers in ears)...but, I don't wanna hear any answers, except those that I already "KNOW"!

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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2012, 02:06:46 PM »
I don't personally know any Christians who are concerned about the end of the world except for worrying that friends and family aren't part of God's kingdom. Personally I worry very little about such big things...I'd much rather waste my energy worrying about how my football team is doing. But i'm getting better at that too.

The world won't end until God decides to end it.

Which reminds me of the rainbow...and a question my wife asked on Friday: why/how does a rainbow appear as it does? Any ideas? Sorry Lucifer, I'll ask this on the science thread.
Does the end of the world include giant meteors? You know like the kind that destroyed the dinosaurs?
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 02:12:30 PM »
Does the end of the world include giant meteors? You know like the kind that destroyed the dinosaurs?

No such thing as dinosaurs. It's all a Satan/Science conspiracy.
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 02:34:31 PM »
Does the end of the world include giant meteors? You know like the kind that destroyed the dinosaurs?

well, there is this bit of ergot induced idiocy:
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Revelation 6:13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth

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Revelation 8:10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood

pity these things are again up for anyone's "interpretation".  ;D
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Re: Christians, why do you try to fight your god's plan?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 02:36:55 PM »
That last one sounds like an actual star. To hit one third of the rivers and springs it must be enormous.
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 02:45:29 PM »
That last one sounds like an actual star. To hit one third of the rivers and springs it must be enormous.

it's a *star* of course it's enormous  ;D 
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