What's this got to do with it? I don't remember the present government passing any shoot first ask questions later laws and there was no Iraq war when Blair got elected.
A young man has been shot dead, a mother will bury her son for no other reason than his murderer felt threatened and apparently that's all the defense he needs. No other country in the western world would allow this. but as usual America is different. Must be that exceptionalism we're always hearing about.
No but Blair got us into the Iraq War. How many people had to bury their children or parents, aunts and uncles or their closest friends or brothers and sisters because our governments thought it was a good idea? Our government was just as guilty as the US government for getting involved.
However, I don't see the death of someone as an excuse for a bit of casual racism.
It was not a valid question it was a leading question. We are not taliking about defending families here we are talking about killing people in the street. Mr Zimmermans family was not under any threat from anyone. There are people here who are actually justifying murder as an excuse for the guns they own and probably carry in public themselves.
But some of your criticisms were around gun law and a part of the discussion is self defence. He wanted to see how far
you would go. Whilst I disagree with the US's gun laws and think some of them are absolutely ludicrous, I still think it's a valid question. I know the answer I'd give, however, I wasn't the one being asked the question.
Apparently complaining because an american was murdered means I hate america. Talk about reverse logic.
You go around having a go at Americans for their guns laws, put them in a position of responsibility for this murder. So in your usual fashion you passionately berate Americans when the opportunity arises.
I suspect that was the point.
Basically:
You're living in a immoral sewer. You pass laws that actually allow people to shoot dead other people without fear of punishment. Is it possible to go any lower than that?
Why don't you just put aside one day a year, you could call it kill day. During that twenty four hours, which would be televised and points awarded for the best kill, anyone would be allowed to shoot dead anyone else they see on the street, since quite plainly you americans won't be happy until you get to kill at least one other human being with those guns you so lovingly care about.
Yay lets pass the blame onto a race of people and use overgeneralised American stereotypes to berate them!
Yes, it's a fucked up situation, but I think "yo America, you're fucked up" isn't actually addressing why these sorts of things happen. America is in no position to abolish their gun laws. It'd be a logistical nightmare where the guns are still in the hands of the wrong people. It doesn't make it right and I think something ought to be done to reduce the number of guns owned with 'self defence' in mind (I say that because people go hunting and here in the UK you can own a gun for hunting, in fact, such guns have been used for murder) and maybe one day those laws could be abolished.
Yes, even certain specific gun laws are ridiculous and don't need to exist and if this guy really felt he just attacked in self defence, why would he pursue him? Like many who commit a crime they're trying to pass the responsibility. Would the crime still have been committed if the specific gun related law didn't exist? Who knows? Also, what also needs to be addressed is why he'd want to shoot the guy in the first place. I am sure lax gun laws is only a part of the issue and also address what can be done, such as what puts people in a position where they commit violent crime in the first place. I'm sure 'owning a gun' isn't the reason.
