"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious..." Then he goes on to say a few of them but as he said they are obvious.
But instead of saying "don't have sex with your grandparents, thier descendants or those related via marriage." what does he say instead?
Do not have sex with your sister.
Do not have sex with brother.
Do not have sex with your daughter.
Do not have sex with your son.
Do not have sex with your nephew.
Do not have sex with your neice.
Listing many but not all circumstances: sex toys and women laying with women. It is man's nature to rebel against god, an All-Knowing being was clearly trying to cover every angle so there were no loopholes. Since you cannot know the mind of a god that works in mysterious ways, there's no way for us to know if those loopholes are intentional or not. Anyone that's read the bible, especially the books of Law would have read that 1/2 page of "Do not have sex with...." laws. So I felt it unnnecessary to list them in detail earlier. That doesn't matter anyways, since the OT is no longer applicable and these aren't part of the 10 Commandments, right?
Edit: Just do, whatever, and with god's grace you are forgiven!
Most of the Old Testament is applicable, there are certain things that pointed to Jesus the Messiah's coming and those were done away with at the cross, such as the Passover Feast which was a service pointing to the coming Messiah.
It is not debated seriously in any academic or scientific manner.
Because, anything that supposedly comes from an All-Knowing god talking about a flat Earth and a solid dome holding up water that the Sun and Moon are within, is so wrong.
To deny the age of the Earth because it says the bible is wrong, must also deny Astronomy & Theory of Relativity with Space Program and GPS. Germ Theory, Theory of Gravity (also necessary for Space Program), and so much more. Seriously, jakec47. I also like how it uses prohesied future events as events that prove the bible to be true. Since the bible says that 1/3 of ALL the stars will fall to the Earth One Day... it Proves the Bible True!
God did not say the Earth was flat, in fact he said it was round.
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in."
- Isaiah 40:22
And if you deny the age of the earth you do not have to deny those other theories and such. I say the Earth is that old because of various reasons like the history of many civilizations only go back a few thousand years. And scientists have changed the age of the earth many times. How can we know it is 4.5 billions years, no one was there. But something does tell us how old the earth is and how do they know...witnesses! The Bible says it is that old so if the Bible is true, and I believe it is then it must be approxiamately 6,000 years old.
A penis seems to have no problem going in a anus. And a mouth and tongue and genitalia? well, that’s the most fun and fitting of all.
That may be so but a man has one reproductive organ and a female has one as well. If male's could reproduce through their anus that would be a different matter. Every body part has its function and that is the same for the sexual organs.
Why, yes he does, he says that oen should abandon everything and follow him. But funny how Christians never do. He never says that sex is sacred as you claimed it to be and if Paul is to be believed as the spiritual continuation of JC, we have Paul quite certain that
1 Corinthians 7: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”(A) 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. So who is wrong here, Jake, you or Paul? Sex is only approved grudgingly by this god of yours (you have to be a virgin to get into the heaven where this god is per Revelation), again another instance where it could have made things better to fit what is supposedly wanted but failed miserably with using its omniscience and omnipotence.
and you are quite a willfully ignorant person to think that the earth is not more than 40,000 years old. Poor hypocrite, using all of that science that shows this is the case as long as it make you comfy.
You cannot say Christians never do. You can't make such a generalized statement. Your ignorance of the ways of God also make what you say about that inaccurate and unintelligable.
Your completely wrong. 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 says, "Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband." As he is obviously stating because there is so much sexual immorality and fornication (word used in the KJV) a man should marry so that they do not break God's law by fornication, which is sexual immorality.
And you don't have to be a virgin to get to heaven, it says that nowhere. You may be referring to Revelation 14:4 which says, "These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins." First off it is talking about the 144,000 which are not the same as all those saved, it is a separate group, those saved are referred to as the "multitudes that surround the throne".
Also if one looks at Revelation they will see it is a book that speaks of many unbelievable things, that is because it is imagery. It has a meaning but it is not literal. This is obvious when is says some of the things for example, "Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne." - Revelation 12:1-5
This is imagery that using the Bible can be interpreted. The women is speaks of if Mary, Jesus' mother. The red dragon having seven heads (this refers to seven hills) and ten horns (this refers to the 10 powers or nations, which is the 10 nations that Rome was divided into when it crumpled). A third of the stars (reference to angels) were through out of heaven. Satan deceived 1/3 of the angels when he was cast out, and they were cast out with him. The dragon was ready to kill Jesus once we was born. We know it was Jesus because it says he will rule all nations with a rod of iron which is what it says of Jesus in other places in the Bible and he was caught up to God...the resurrection. When Jesus was born the Roman government, which Satan was working through, under King Herod tried to have Jesus killed once he was born.
As you can see it is imagery that John, the writer, had to use since he was exiled on the island of Patmos, if he had spoken plainly the letter would have most certainly been taken and destroyed so he had to hide the truth under imagery that the rest of the Bible could be used to understand it.
And I would not call me ignorant because of what I say about the age of the earth because many scientists agree that the earth is fairly young. Here is a list of scientists who believe in a young earth:
•Dr. E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
•Dr. Kevin Anderson, Microbiology - Biography
•Mark Armitage, Biology - Biography
•Alexander Arndt (analytical chemist, etc.) [more info]
•Dr. Steve Austin, Geologist
•Francis Bacon (developed the Scientific Method)
•Dr. Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
•Thomas G. Barnes (physicist) [more info]
•Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
•Dr. Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
•Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
•Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
•Dr. Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
•Arthur V. Chadwick (geologist) [more info]
•Dr. Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist
•Dr. John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
•Dr. Bob Compton, DVM
•Melvin Alonzo Cook (physical chemist, Nobel Prize nominee) [more info]
•Dr. Ken Cumming, Biologist
•Dr. Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
•Dr. William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics
•Dr. Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
•Dr. Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
•Dr. Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
•Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
•Dr. David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
•Dr. Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
•Dr. Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
•Dr. Ted Driggers, Operations research
•Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
•Dr. André Eggen, Geneticist
•Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
•Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
•Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
•Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
•Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
•Robert V. Gentry (physicist and chemist) [more info]
•Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
•Dr. Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
•Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
•Dr. Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
•Dr. Warwick Glover, General Surgeon
•Dr. D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
•John Grebe (chemist) [more info]
•Dr. George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
•Dr. Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
•Dr. Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
•Dr. Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
•Dr. Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
•Dr. George F. Howe, Botany
•Dr. James A. Huggins, Professor and Chair, Department of Biology
•D. Russell Humphreys (award-winning physicist) [more info]
•Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy
•George T. Javor, Biochemistry
•Dr. Arthur Jones, Biology
•Dr. David Kaufman, Human Anatomy - Biography
•John W. Klotz (geneticist and biologist) [more info]
•Leonid Korochkin (geneticist) [more info]
•Dr. John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry
•Lane P. Lester (geneticist and biologist) [more info]
•Dr. Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist
•Dr. Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist and microbiologist:
•Dr. John Marcus, Molecular Biologist
•Frank L. Marsh (biologist) [more info]
•Dr. George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher
•Dr. Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist
•Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics
•Dr. David Menton, Anatomist
•Dr. Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist
•Dr. John Meyer, Physiologist
•Colin W. Mitchell, Geography
•Dr. Tommy Mitchell, Physician
•Dr. John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer and Dentist
•Dr. Henry M. Morris (1918–2006), founder of the Institute for Creation Research.
•Dr. Arlton C. Murray, Paleontologist
•Dr. John D. Morris, Geologist
•Dr. Terry Mortenson, History of Geology
•Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
•Isaac Newton (helped develop science of dynamics and the discipline of calculus / father of the Law of Gravity / invented the reflecting telescope) - See also a refutation of the argument Newton was a creationist only because there was no alternative)
•Dr. Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher
•Michael Oard, Atmospheric Science - Biography
•Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
•Gary E. Parker (biologist and paleontologist) [more info]
•Louis Pasteur (helped develop science of bacteriology / discovered the Law of Biogenesis / invented fermentation control / developed vaccinations and immunizations)
•Dr. Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
•Dr. John Rankin, Cosmologist
•Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
•Dr. Ariel A. Roth, Biology
•Dr. Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist:
•Dr. Andrew Snelling, Geologist
•Dr. Timothy G. Standish, Biology
•Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
•Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
•Dr. Esther Su, Biochemistry
•Dr. Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
•Charles B. Thaxton (chemist) [more info]
•Dr. Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
•William Thompson (Lord Kelvin) (helped develop sciences of thermodynamics and energetics / invented the Absolute Temperature Scale / developed the Trans-Atlantic Cable)
•Dr. Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
•Dr. Royal Truman, Organic Chemist:
•Leonardo da Vinci (helped develop science of hydraulics)
•Dr. Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
•Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist
•Dr. Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer
•Dr. A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
•Dr. John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist
•A.E. Wilder-Smith (chemist and pharmacology expert) [more info]
•Dr. Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist
•Dr. Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Ph.D., Creationist Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
•Dr. Patrick Young, Chemist and Materials Scientist
•Dr. Henry Zuill, Biology